WASHINGTON (CBS DC) — Comedian Chris Rock called former President Bill Clinton a “d***,” saying that although Clinton was labeled “the first black president,” Hillary Clinton and President Barack Obama have guided his public image in recent years.

In a wide-ranging interview on comedy, politics and technology, Chris Rock spoke with New York Magazine about the release of the film “Top Five” and American culture as a whole. He singled out Bill Clinton in one section of the interview.

“He’s a d***, but you’re talking about a guy who’s embarrassed his wife,” he said in an interview with New York Magazine, recalling that in 2008 the former president was blasting Obama on the campaign trail to defend his wife, which angered black voters.

Rock noted he “couldn’t judge” Clinton, joking that he was forced to choose between Hillary Clinton and black people as a whole. “The hell with the black people,” Rock joked. “Because he doesn’t live with all the black people. He lives with his wife.”

Asked about Bill Clinton being the “first black president,” Rock quipped, “Allegedly, until a black guy showed up.”

Rock also took on Hillary Clinton’s potential 2016 run for president, saying “it’s still not a done deal.”

“Remember, she was ahead last time. She had all the black people. And she lost to somebody she really shouldn’t have lost to,” said Rock. “I mean, I would love to see Hillary, but there’s a part of Hillary that’s like the Democratic McCain at this point. As he showed, ‘It’s my time’ is not really enough.”

Rock also used the analogy that disappointment with Obama was accurate, but overhyped.

“I’m trying to figure out the right analogy. Everybody wanted Michael Jordan, right? We got Shaq. That’s not a disappointment. You know what I mean? We got Charles Barkley. It’s still a Hall of Fame career. The president should be graded on jobs and peace, and the other stuff is debatable,” said Rock.

“I mean, the liberals that are against him feel let down because he’s not Bush. And the thing about George Bush is that the kid revolutionized the presidency. How? He was the first president who only served the people who voted for him. He literally operated like a cable network.”

Rock spoke broadly on the world of comedy, noting he doesn’t play universities anymore because the political correctness is too “conservative” and that comedy clubs had managed to replace cigarettes with cell phones.

“It is scary, because the thing about comedians is that you’re the only ones who practice in front of a crowd,” said Rock. “Prince doesn’t run a demo on the radio. But in stand-up, the demo gets out. There are a few guys good enough to write a perfect act and get onstage, but everybody else workshops it and workshops it, and it can get real messy. It can get downright offensive.”

Rock said that 2014 has been a “weird year for comedy” with the deaths of Robin Williams, Joan Rivers “and we kind of lost Cosby.”