RICHMOND, Va. (CBSDC/AP) — Sen. Janet Howell, a Democrat from Fairfax, says if pregnant women should have to get an ultrasound before having an abortion, men should have to undergo additional medical procedures before getting a prescription for erectile dysfunction.

On Monday Howell expressed her disdain for legislation requiring the ultrasound by proposing an amendment she described as a simple matter of fairness. Her amendment said that before being treated for erectile dysfunction, a man would have to undergo a digital rectal exam and a cardiac stress test.

“We should just have a little gender equity here,” Howell said.

She said if women are going to be subjected to an unnecessary medical procedure, men should be as well.

Howell has been a member of the Virginia Senate since 1992.

Sen. Jill Vogel, R-Fauquier and the chief sponsor of the ultrasound bill, countered that erectile dysfunction and pregnancy clearly are not the same.

The Senate rejected the amendment on a mostly party-line 21-19 vote.

Vogel’s bill will be on the calendar for a final Senate vote Tuesday. The legislation would require all women seeking abortions to have an ultrasound image taken to determine the gestational age of the fetus. It says each patient must be given the opportunity to see the image or hear the fetal heartbeat, but not required to do so.

After the ultrasound, women who live less than 100 miles from the medical facility would have to wait at least 24 hours before having the abortion except in the event of a medical emergency. Women who live more than 100 miles away would have to wait only two hours.

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Comments (13)
  1. wunderbarcandy says:

    FETUS IS NOT A BABY (GOOGLE THE HUMAN DEVELOPMENT CHART), but a parasite because the classification of the biological relationship that is based on the behavior one organism (fetus) and how it relates to the woman’s body.

    as a zygote, it invaded the woman’s uterus using its TROPHOBLAST cells, hijacked her immune system by using NEUROKININ B and HCG— so her body doesn’t kill it, steals her nutrients to survive, and causes her harm or potential death.

    “The placenta functions as an immunological barrier between the mother and the fetus, creating an immunologically privileged site. For this purpose, it uses several mechanisms:
    It secretes Neurokinin B containing phosphocholine molecules. This is the same mechanism used by parasitic nematodes to avoid detection by the immune system of their host.[2]”

    “Progesterone enriches the uterus with a thick lining of blood vessels and capillaries so that it can sustain the growing fetus. Due to its highly-negative charge, hCG may repel the immune cells of the mother, protecting the fetus during the first trimester. It has also been hypothesized that hCG may be a placental link for the development of local maternal immunotolerance.”

    “It is also possible for a symbiotic relationship to exist between two organisms of the same species.” — Gale’s Science of Everyday Things.

    just like a parasitic twin —

    “an animal or plant that lives in or on another (the host) from which it obtains nourishment. The host does not benefit from the association and is often harmed by it”

    pregnancy CAUSES HARM:

    if a man can abort his tapeworm at anytime– so should a woman abort her unwanted parasitic fetus, too.

  2. wunderbarcandy says:


    NO HUMAN ( that means the FETUS, too) has a right to life or any due process rights by the 14th amendment to use another human’s body or body parts AGAINST their will, civil and constitutional rights: that’s why you are not forced to donate your kidney—the human fetus is no exception; this is supported by the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment AND 13th amendment, which makes reproductive slavery unconstitutional.

    “Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. ”

    this makes viability unconstitutional because pregnancy is not a crime.

    consensual sex=/= a legal, binding contract to an unwanted fetus to live; and abortion is not murder, the unlawful killing with intent.

  3. wunderbarcandy says:

    the bible supported abortion, that was done by a priest, in god’s name, in his holly temple!
    the 1984 NIV footnote of numbers 5:11-31 explained what “to thy thigh to rot, they belly to swell” meant: numbers 5:21 “or causes you to have a miscarrying womb and barrenness” to CAUSE a miscarrying womb IS an abortion.

    ‘Ephraim, as I saw Tyre, is planted in a pleasant place; but Ephraim shall bring forth his children to the murderer.” Give them, O LORD — what wilt Thou give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts…Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit; yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.’

    HOSEA 9-16

    the judeo-christian god is a myth and historical evidence proves it.
    3.3.3 ATHEISM: A HISTORY OF GOD (Part 1)

  4. ArlingtonGuy says:

    Ms. Howell’s amendment is tacky, tasteless and utterly embarrassing. Regardless of how one feels about the underlying bill (requiring ultrasound), the Howell proposal is is a non-serious, smart-alecky publicity stunt — on a subject that calls out for serious discussion and consideration.

    Ms. Howell has done all sides of the debate a serious disservice. She owes everyone an immediate public apology.

    1. Charm Smith says:

      I thought it was brilliant.

    2. Mr.Fetus says:

      She’s brilliant. Any negative response to this just sounds like whining.

    3. Zort says:

      It’s perfectly reasonable, at least as reasonable as the original proposal and not nearly as invasive.

  5. Laura Nevitt says:

    This is brilliant – nothing better to point out inequality than good smart-ass humor. Yes, reproductive freedom requires serious debate, but when one side (the conservative, religious right) doesn’t even grasp the concept of what is wrong with this kind of legislation – kind of makes it hard to have a serious discussion.
    The apology needs to come from the Senate for even introducing the ultra-sound legislation to start with

    1. Charm Smith says:

      Hear hear!!!

  6. WildWIlly1111 says:

    ArlingtonGuy – from one guy to another: Spoken like a true Guy!

    1. Sergio says:

      Look people If there is even a hdfanul of brainwashed morons in China sitting around doing this, it should be alarming and is a horrible concept yes, but you must realize that this is NOT CHINA, nor is it the Chinese culture or belief to do this, and it is not how most people any place live. There are however such monsters on American soil that do much worse things to people and babies and have done so unpunished for years. There are certain people with well protected identities in our own government who have the power to do whatever they want, to who ever they want even your daughter (God forbid), who think and do way worse and its happening right under our very noses UNDERSTAND the real issue behind this is to monitor your opinion about the idea REALIZE that there is a mass hypnosis brain washing taking place on a global scale, controlled by the super power elite Sumerian banker bloodlines (yes, the real vampires ladies and gentlemen) who many believe are even as deeply rooted as Disney Pictures, and other major corporations I will not mention. These people are hell bent on taking over the whole globe, silently. Take heed of the real propaganda What are you being sold? What are you being reduced to people? For the love of YOURSELF (if God just isn’t it for you) SEE THE TRUTH! DO NOT TAKE THE H1N1 SWINE FLU VACCINE!!! PLEASE DO NOT CENSOR MY COMMENTS SITE ADMIN! thank you

  7. Honey_Bunny says:

    She is my new hero. Great idea, madam! Women don’t find themselves spontaneously pregnant, and since it takes two to tango I think it is only fair to address this issue from both ends. And I mean both.

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