Scalia: The Devil ‘Is Getting People Not To Believe In Him Or In God’

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Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia attends the TIME/CNN/PEOPLE/FORTUNE Pre-Dinner Cocktail Reception at Washington Hilton on April 27, 2013 in Washington, D.C. (credit: Michael Loccisano/Getty Images for Time, Inc)

Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia attends the TIME/CNN/PEOPLE/FORTUNE Pre-Dinner Cocktail Reception at Washington Hilton on April 27, 2013 in Washington, D.C. (credit: Michael Loccisano/Getty Images for Time, Inc)

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WASHINGTON (CBSDC) — Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia touched upon the role Catholic religion plays in society during a wide-ranging interview with New York magazine.

The 77-year-old justice believes Pope Francis is right that the Catholic Church should steer away from gay marriage and abortion while keeping with the church’s doctrine.

“He’s just saying, ‘Don’t spend all our time talking about that stuff. Talk about Jesus Christ and evangelize,’” Scalia told New York magazine. “I think there’s no indication whatever that he’s changing doctrinally.”

Scalia said that he though he believes homosexuality is wrong, he doesn’t “hate the people that engage in it.”

“I’m not a hater of homosexuals at all,” Scalia said.

Scalia noted in the interview that he believes the Devil is trying to play a trick on humanity.

“What he’s doing now is getting people not to believe in him or in God. He’s much more successful that way,” Scalia said.

Scalia added that the Devil has gotten “wilier” over the years.

“What happened to the Devil, you know? He used to be all over the place,” Scalia said. “He used to be all over the New Testament.”

Scalia also called the State of the Union address a “childish spectacle” as to why he doesn’t attend them anymore.

“[W]e are trucked in just to give some dignity to the occasion. I mean, there are all these punch lines, and one side jumps up – ‘Hooray!’ And they all cheer, and then another punch line, and the others stand up, ‘Hooray!’ It is juvenile,” Scalia explained. “And we have to sit there like bumps on a log. We can clap if somebody says, ‘The United States is the greatest country in the world.’ Yay! But anything else, we have to look to the chief justice. ‘Gee, is the chief gonna clap?’ It didn’t used to be that bad.”

Scalia was nominated in 1986 by then President Ronald Reagan and has been serving on the Supreme Court for the past 27 years.

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