WASHINGTON (CBS DC) — On his Tuesday show, Fox News anchor Bill O’Reilly said he doesn’t “feel that strongly” about gay marriage either way, and that politicians are using the issue to pander to popular politics.

In a discussion with Megyn Kelly about the Supreme Court’s hearing on Proposition 8, O’Reilly said he believed the current Court decision on gay marriage should be left up to the states to decide. The Supreme Court on Wednesday continues its examination of same-sex marriage, considering whether Congress may withhold federal benefits from legally wed gay couples by defining marriage as only between a man and a woman.

The arguments will focus on a crucial section of the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act, which was passed by bipartisan congressional majorities and signed by President Bill Clinton back when same-sex marriage was not as large of an issue as it is today.

However, Clinton recently wrote an op-ed in The Washington Post saying that the court should find the law unconstitutional, and the Obama administration has said it will not defend the law.

O’Reilly called former President Bill Clinton a “phony,” saying he signed DOMA at the time because it was popular, and now has “evolved” on the issue because of its popularity.

“You can change your mind on the issue, but you have to explain that in context other than politics,” said O’Reilly. “How, somehow, you evolved on this issue? I’m willing to listen to that. But I don’t believe any of this is sincere, it’s political. It’s just awful.”

He also said President Obama is similarly guilty of the same “sleazy” political move.

“They pander. They don’t care about gays. If they cared about gays then they would have been on board in the beginning. And they weren’t, and it’s the same issue.”

In response, Kelly said pro-marriage equality forces had made very compelling arguments that opponents had been unable to defeat at this point.

“The compelling argument is on the side of homosexuals,” O’Reilly said. “That is where the compelling argument is. We’re Americans, we just want to be treated like everybody else.”


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