You will find that it is very hard to get thousands of people to rally based on a negative belief. Really. Rally because they do *not* believe a thing?

Awesome. Just what this country needs, another demographic to march and carry signs and whine about how unfairly they are being treated and how nobody likes them.

“I believe in nothing, so let me fight for it!” What a sad existence. How about: Figure out what you DO believe, and fight for that? Oh, that requires too much work, well then, carry on.

They should start the meeting with a prayer.

I am going.

Stop shoving your secularism down my throat.

So is this sponsored by the DNC and Soros?

Speaking as a life long Atheist…go home! nobody cares. To a true Atheist, religion is a non subject. I resent when someone tries to push their beliefs on me, we would be no better doing the same

If you are an Atheist, shut up and be an Atheist. You have nothing you need to prove.

It is interesting that there is a quote that Atheists are the most hated. I believe they think they are and they spew hateful rhetoric but as to the most hated, it is only themselves they hate the most.

“There are more atheists in the country right now than Jews, Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists combined and doubled – that’s a lot of people, and we are the most hated … for no reason other than pure and simple religious bigotry, spurned by ignorance,” Silverman said.

– “Hate”… I’m not sure about that. I have nothing against Athiests. They can, and should, believe what they want. It just seems like Christians, and especially Catholics, catch a heck of a lot of derision.

This is all well and good as long as they don’t bash those who DO have religion in their lives. I don’t think that will be the case though.

So if he’s for separation of church and state, I’m assuming he’s a vocal opponent of the government forcing faith based organizations to buy things that go against their beliefs. Wait … you mean this is just a liberal shill group? I’m shocked!

The atheist movement is almost exclusively a Jewish secular atheist marxist conglomeration. Can’t fix a problem if we are afraid to identify it.My Orthodox Jewish friends are not the issue, this again is seculars.

This Reason Rally appears to be a gathering of people who proudly proclaim their absolute conclusion that there is no god, even though there is insufficient evidence to draw such a conclusion.

Logically speaking, that is quite an unreasonable position to take.

The joke’s on them; God doesn’t believe in this.

I’m an atheist, and if the rally were in my town, I would go if I felt it would be positive. The rally would help provide the simple pleasure of being with like minded people. They are not rallying because they “don’t believe” they are rallying because they believe in one another.

Looks to me like their hope is to illustrate to people, people like Jim and Jak, that atheists make up a varied population of people. Most I know are conservative republican business types like myself. The atheists that irk religious folk are the secularists: An atheist doesn’t believe in god or gods while a secularists wants you to not believe in god or gods.

Bashing Christians is the whole point of their existence.

I don’t know about being the most hated but they quickly beat out televangelists on my list of annoying people.

Yeah, Atheist is not a religion. Nope.

Atheists probably wouldn’t feel so hated if they believed in a God who loved them.

So they are saying 1 out of every 6 americans are atheists??? I despise these people, what a blatant outright lie. Thats what these people are all about, tearing others down because of what they believe in. I am half tempted to go to DC when they get their 8,000 to 10,000 strong crowd and protest it.

Gee, do you think Candice Leigh Helfand is somewhat of an advocate of this movement, as opposed to an objective journalis? It seems that she wanted to underscore the idea of a “Massive Rally” by including a photo of “participants in another rally” according to the caption. What’s the matter, couldn’t get a stock photo of a previously “massive” atheist rally? I wonder if that “other rally” was a Tea Party rally?? hmmmm.

This, like jim’s comment above, is simply incorrect. It is not that atheists do not believe in any particular god. Atheists affirmatively believe that there is no god. What they do believe is that there is no god. Believe in the absence of a thing is a belief; for example, your belief that you are not a brain in a vat subject to the mirages of a Cartesian evil genius.

Thumbs up from a Christian. I only resent those atheists who go out of their way to belittle, offend and generally interfere with people who adhere to Christianity or any belief in a higher power or deity.

I respect the atheists for their willingness to speak up. In America, everyone has the right to be wrong. Nobody has a monopoly on ignorance, and nobody is omniscient. At least that makes a good starting point for a discussion.

BTW evolution in the Darwinian model violates the laws of genetics as discovered and formulated by Gregor Mendel. You can’t get a being with 23 pairs of chromosomes (human) by starting with zero pairs of chromosomes (pre-life). The great apes with 24 pairs of chromosomes also could not start from zero pairs, either. This is a good reason to consider the creation model.

Not the -ism part, however!

And they should receive precisely as much attention as the Catholics “Right to Life” march got from the Main Stream Media….. zilch! ….in spite of 10,000+ on a very cold/rainy day!

Actual fairness requires this!

NEXT year, if the Athiests want coverage, they had better make sure the MSM covers the Right to Life march properly. Less than 500 Occupy DC foks got weeks of coverage in the national media, but zilch for Catholics and other Christians marching to express their heart-felt moral outrage at the disdain currently give to respecting lives.

And I’m not talking about just Abortion! Consider Ms. Houston, Mr. Jackson, and litterally millions that die of drugs around the world. Some overdose, some are poisoned, many children are abused, many are killed raining, buying, trading and the rest of the organized crime wars the drugs feed!

Respect for human life and freedom extends to raising generations of people who WILLINGLY choose to avoid situations that kill needlessly.

We don’t need to jail addicts, we need to educate them. We need to shame those in the media and entertainment worlds that endanger those poorer and less successful than themselves every time the play down the dangers involved in risky life styles!

Freedom of choice? Indeed! Balanced freedom of choice… YOUR freedoms end where they start taking away from the freedoms of OTHERS.

The atheists have turned their dis-belief into a religion. I hate religions, even theirs.

Excellent comments, Neo. Sounds like you took the red pill.

That is the whole point. Atheists are sick of having Christianity forced down their throats, and are standing up to resist the aggressive advances of the conservative right. Your apathy to being pushed around and having your liberties threatened is not an admirable trait by the way…

Nope. What you are saying is a sort of rationalization that religious people like to assume rather than provide an argument for because it coheres with your narrative that people cannot be happy without god.

I stand with Neo on this. This group is the “get your religion out of my face” crowd, when it really isn’t in anyone’s face. I am an atheist and I think the Pledge of Allegiance should retain the reference to god.

I wonder if they are praying for good weather?

I can accept your position. Live and let live.

I’ve had many on-line debates with those you call secularists. I’ve referred to them as militant atheists. It doesn’t take long to start seeing holes in their logic. These debate have been enjoyable for me.

To me, every belief system is based on faith. You must exercise faith to embrace something that you have insufficient evidence to draw absolute conclusions about, that include atheism.

Atheism is a belief system, just as theism is also a belief system. The disconnect is, theists know they practice a belief system. Atheists don’t.

Lets all pray for some kind of snow storm or other event. These people talk out of both sides of their mouth. It’s a shame our country is being slowly taken over by the secular progressive movement while those of faith, ESPECIALLY Christians find their beliefs mocked and their rights trampled upon. I pray for our country.

Immediately before and after the event, 98% of them will read and watch RELIGIOUS SCIENCE FICTION & FANTASY books, movies and comics……just a bunch of lying hypocrites, all moving to a religious belief in Panspermia, waiting for Satan/Lucifer to dupe them into believing in fake aliens from outer space with a message through SETI or a reliable UFO sighting or archeological find when God, who calls atheists fools in the Bible, permits Lucifer to do so for the end-time prophetic events

I hope you appreciate the irony of your blind rage.

“I despise these people” due to their beliefs differing from mine.

“Thats what these people are all about, tearing others down because of what they believe in” as I tear them down for their beliefs.

“I am half temped to go to DC where they get their 8,000 to 10,000 strong crowd and protest it” because I disagree with their beliefs.

Oh wait, I epitomize the exact qualities I claim to despise them for having… I am a hypocrite.

Very well said, and as an athiest, I agree.

Please Designate April 1st as your National Holiday !

Less than 4% of Americans identify themselves as Atheist. Those that do have been trying to snag the Agnostics for years, which is how they come up with 40million people. True Atheists comprise roughly 12 million in the US.

Its a negative belief because someone first has to believe in God for someone to believe that there isn’t a God. If no one ever believed in God, no one would form a group to not believe in God.
If you want to be comparable to a belief system of religions, then believe in science or that nothing matters (or some other philosophy), not “I believe others beliefs are wrong”.

Hee hee! What a bunch of goobers. Every time I hear them griping about all this stuff I’m struck by just how little they know, and how they think their arguments are some sort of hardcore conundrum.

They actually spend money to put up intentionally offensive billboards and such, they openly mock religious types, they insist they’re so much smarter than everyone else, then they turn around and whine like they’re some sort of victim. “Everybody hates us! Whaaaa!”

They pretend everything they believe is based on science, but it’s a complete fabrication. To deny God they believe hundreds of things that have never been proven. (FAITH MUCH?)

Then there’s the outright lies: “We outnumber everybody!” Really? Show me the evidence, because every poll I’ve ever seen says 80% or more of the US population claims some sort of religious affiliation.

Jeez, these people need a hobby.

Hypocrite. Why are you doing the exact thing you are against.

What on earth do they want? They often oppress but are never oppressed. What is
their problem? If it’s lack of the esteem of others, joining together en masse and in-your-face for no cause other than to show their disdain of the religious beliefs of others, this is truly an absurd way to do it, and as absurd, I might add, as atheism in the era of quantum physics. Good grief, atheists: get a life!

Tooo funny, the Godless marching to make sure they are seen, heard and cared for by those who have a belief….yea, gotta love this Obama-nation we are in….

Please don’t refer to it as the Catholic’s “Right to Life” march. The annual March for Life attracts people from virtually ALL denominations and religions, including Evangelical, Lutherans for Life, Jewish, Baptists, etc. Also, please don’t just say 10,000 +. It was WAY more than just a plus. The estimate I have heard is approximately 500,000. Of course, the 12 pro-aborts who were there were the only ones to really make the news. I just hope that next year we have a real reason to CELEBRATE ( a new, pro-life administration), and MUCH better weather!

I think you are conflating religious affiliated individuals, or people that a culturally Catholic/Jewish/etc., and actually religious people. 30% of my closest friends maintain their cultural religious identity because they think it would disappoint their family to admit they do not believe in god. And these are people with whom I attended Catholic high school. I feel no such burden, but don’t see a reason to have a rally about it, particularly after paying lip service from grades K-12 to what strike me as childish fairy tales.

Who has been pushing you around, Ted?

I don’t feel pushed around one bit. I’m quite happy. Not threatened, not bugged by anyone’s beliefs. How I feel about religion is my personal belief, how anyone else feels is their business.

Most rebellious Atheists I know of came about it after leaving a church…sort of like intolerant ex-smokers.

Live your life, believe what you want, or not, and be happy. Life is too short (unless you think you will have an afterlife).

Atheists aren’t all socialist liberals, many of us avidly support free markets, capitalism, strong defence, small govt., etc. Conservatives don’t believe in freedom with respect to social issues and often invoke faith as a guiding principle. Last time I checked my pilot flew on training, not faith.

Judeo-Christian country. So we are a theocracy?

I wonder if Pelosi will say “God Bless them” in regards to this bunch?

The percentage of atheists (in the US) is in the low-to mid single percentages. Many atheists tend to lump in the non-churchgoers and non-affiliated into the atheist category in order to inflate the statistics. This is specious.

40-50 million atheists? The Pew Forum on Religion conducted in 2011 found 1.6 % of Americans identified themselves as atheists. With 300 million Americans, that means approximately 4-5 million are atheists. They are miscalculating their numbers by a factor of 10. Of course, they don’t fear any repercussions for their lies.

Google “Russell’s teapot”. The burden of proof doesn’t lie with those who don’t believe; it lies with those who do.

Get the dumpsters out there. I see another litter-fest in the making.

Typical athiest. Those evil Christians are trying to take over the world again. Funny how you people NEVER say anything about Islam or Bhuddists or Hindus.

Nope. You only hate Christians. And based on most athiest posters, HATE is the appropriate word.

Nope, Jak, you’re wrong. I’m conservative for the most part, and I’m athiest. This is not political, so don’t turn it into such.

Nope. What you are saying is a rationalization that religious atheists like to assume about those that believe in God. The truth is that people no matter what religion will hear most the hate toward their own. As such, everyone thinks the opposed groups are full of hate.

Just like your whining here on this forum.

How many want to bet there will be a major lightning storm or tornado?

But you flew on faith that your pilot was sufficiently trained. Did you verify his/her credentials before you rode with him? You just believed he was.

We exercise faith all the time, as illustrated above. Regarding belief systems? It takes faith to conclude there is no god just as it takes faith to believe there is.

Wow, this is more attention than the pro-lifers got last month from SeeBS. If you wanted to see a massive rally, you should have covered that one.

‘Massive Rally’ of atheists? I wonder how much attention a group of Chrisitans would have gotten ahead of time if they were planning this march. Oh, wait no I don’t wonder. SeeBS wouldn’t have given them a passing glance worth of coverage. My guess is this ‘rally’ won’t come close to the Tea Party rallies or the annual Pro-Life march. We’ll never hear that from SeeBS though.

It is amusing that some of the atheists here say religion is a fairy tale. The idea that we were all created by magical molecules that self-assembled into people over millions of years is as far fetched as Adam and Eve, or Primeval Persons, or what have you.

We’s all gots religion.

“Most hated”???? That is the most delusional thing I’ve heard all week. The movement known as The New Atheists are mostly behind this, and they are a reckless lot led by the likes of Sam Harris… a dude who affirmed that if he had the choice of eradicating rape or religion, he would chose religion. Nice guy.

“There’s nothing an agnostic can’t do if he really doesn’t know whether he believes in anything or not.”

My numbers above came from an atheist website. Even better to use their own data when paltry doesn’t suffice.

Amen! From a long-practicing Catholic! The Constitution gives me the right to BELIEVE and you the right NOT to. Just don’t try to use government to split us into waring factions for the political gain of greedy, power-hungry politicians.

In the 1950′s I was taught in very conservative Catholic schools on the Mississippi Gulf coast that it is not for man to judge who goes to heaven, but God. I specifically was instructed that people who never heard of Jesus Christ or who have no religious beliefs or knowledge can still be judged worthy of heaven. Even those of us that look like the worse sinners or the most blessed saints here on earth will be judged in the context of the gifts we were born with, the opportunities presented and how well we satisfied God, knowlingly or unknowingly.

Above is what I was taught in the ’50s by St. Joseph nuns and Sacred Heart brothers as well as my parents and siblings.

Below in my opinion, not necessarily Catholic church teaching.

IMHO, it was a violation of Church and State long, long ago when government stepped over its bounds and started regulating “marriage”. marriage is a natural law and a religious law “sacrament”. The civil and criminal laws should be free of sexual bias; tax laws may favor children and by indirection the care takers of children, but should not be tied to the biological parents.

Goverment’s duties end with the protection of each of us from each other in regard to the rights to life, property, liberty and pursuit of happiness.

Legislatures should rewrite their laws to replace “marriage” with ‘civil union’ or similar language, remove sexual bias, and restrict the law only to health, safety and property sharing issues. Child welfare laws and laws against violence should apply directly to those aspects of law that now address child and spouse issues, independent of the “marriage”.

I recognize this will offend the sensitivities of many. But it should only impact their desire to strengthen their faith and their participation in their churches, including the expansion of their participation in the sacraments of their religion. Then the social wars and debates can be held without the heavy hand of government bening called in…. except to prevent violence!

Peace!

Pick one. The atheists are holding the rally because:
A) They are bored out of their minds
B) They need to use up their frequent flier miles
c) They truly are afraid of the mean old Christians
D) They are actually insecure in their unbelief

What rally is that a picture of above? I’m thinking Tea Party, where the mall was actually full of real people, not imaginary numbers reported by the MSM of socialist rallies… nice try.

I believe that the so called ‘atheist’ believes at least in himself or herself. One’s own inner conscience is one’s own benefactor and the so called ‘god’,

Love how the picture isn’t even of a real atheist rally! “File photo of National Mall crowded with participants in another rally.” Verbatim quote as of 3:55PM EST. You will not pack the Mall. You never have, you never will.

Hope it doesn’t have to be postponed due to an act of God.

Who cares? It’s just ONE zero! What’s the big deal about ONE zero? ;->

Unlike Christianity, there’s no prohibition on lying in the atheist belief system.

After reading these comments I can believe that atheists truly do have a lot to be afraid of in America. The hate on this thread by the religious folks is enough to make me cringe.

You boast, “We have entered into a covenant with death, with the grave we have made an agreement. When an overwhelming scourge sweeps by, it cannot touch us, for we have made a lie our refuge and falsehood our hiding place.” Isaiah 28:15

A 2008 Gallup poll showed that 6% of the US population believed that no god or universal spirit exists. That is about 18 million people, not 40-50 million. 18 million is a lot of people, but the numbers were definitely inflated in this article.

Have you ever even read Ayn Rand?? Author of Atlas Shrugged?? One of the most influential writers of the 20th century? Hard core suporter of Capitalism and Republican politics, and staunch atheist. To suggest that atheism is a marxist conglomeration is to be laughably, pathetically ignorant. You do have a brain, don’t you?? Wait. let me guess. You believe that the earth is 6,000 years old, that God destroyed all life on this planet except for Noah and his family, and that humans lived side by side with dinosaurs.

Yes really. “Negative” beliefs and doubts are great motivators. I am not sure if that if even framing it correctly. There are pro-gun laws that people disagree with and demonstrate against. These people in a way dont believe in gun rights. All that matters is if the laws and reasoning behind the laws are bad or not.

Bretrand

No one has ever proved that conscious complex life forms can arise out of unconscious nonliving matter. Atheists also have a burden of proof on this one.

And there were “massive protests” against Keystone. Funny I can’t recall hearing or seeing anything about it until Obama said no.

Did you notice the propaganda next to the article? Namely, the photo of the Mall with 1/2 Million people on it. This is done so that people will read the headline and see the photo and get the idea that the event will be packed … when it hasn’t even taken place yet!

I don’t care if you don’t believe in God. That’s your choice. I’m just amused with all the proclamations of absolute certainty that there is no god.

That takes a mighty heap of hubris. Arrogance is in abundant supply at any gathering of atheists.

I agree with you Jeff…and thank you for pointing that out. What I see here is a simultaneous casting of stones.

You religious nuts define atheism as a negative belief. Not so. Atheists believe the universe we see around us is real, and that reason is man’s route to knowledge. That’s positive! You religious people base your faith on, “You can’t prove God DOESN’T exist, therefore I believe in it.” That’s a negative belief system.

“There are 40 to 50 million atheists [in the United States"

Wow I just love it when folks throw around figures with no confirmation at all where they have come from... I for one "believe" he just threw out these figures and of course the reporter never bothered to check:

To quote Demographics of atheism, found on wikipedia.org:
"A 2004 BBC poll showed the number of people in the US who don't believe in a god to be about 9%.[10] A 2008 Gallup poll showed that a smaller 6% of the US population believed that no god or universal spirit exists.[31] The most recent ARIS report, released March 9, 2009, found in 2008, 34.2 million Americans (15.0%) claim no religion, of which 1.6% explicitly describes itself as atheist (0.7%) or agnostic (0.9%), nearly double the previous 2001 ARIS survey figure of 0.9%.[32]”

So basically this speakers seems to believe that if you are not associated with a church, temple, ect, then you are an atheist. This is bull! I look on atheists as just another religious movement, claiming they need to dominant the country. As I quoted above, only 1.6% US residents explicitly describe themselves as atheist.

My spiritual views are private. But It outrages me to see outright lies go into a story without anyone questioning even where this person quoted got his figures from.

Hey Ferb, I hear you.

A famous philospher once said, “It is easy to die for something you belive in. Live humbly for those you love.”

Can’t remember who though

Stop embedding religion into government just so you can shove your religion down people’s throats.

Mr. Silverman, the question you should be asking “what is more important, the Bible or the Constitution”.. The question should be what’s more important, the Shariah or the Constitution. But, you gutless wonders on the left would never ask that, no no, no! Your head remaining attached to your body precludes that question. Much easier to attack those Christians, they won’t cut your heads off!!! LoL…..you’d best begin look at this creeping Shariah, taking place right under your pointy little noses.

And ironically they will all worship their god osama obama.

How many atheists have been physically attacked for their atheism in this country??

Why do folks argue over something they can neither prove or disprove especially when there it not possible to design and experiment to test for it?

You dishonor the name of John Galt.

Why does atheism have to be negative, because you have false hope.

Athiests are celebrating that there are more of them to believe in nothing?

And if Athiests don’t want to be hated, then they should first look in the mirror and know that they’re not “hated” for being Athiests, they’re hated when they stick their nose into everything else that they don’t believe in, like saying Merry Christmas, the fact that the word God is on our money, or in our pledge of allegiance, or there’s a Nativity Scene on public property.

I mean really, a baby on a bail of hay surrounded by a robed lady and some farm animals is soooo offensive to they? If Athiests were so sound in their beliefs, they’d find it all amusing and move on.

But their incredible insecurity about having anyone else mention religion proves their the intollerant ones who still don’t know what they believe in.

D’oh! Typing failure!

Agreed. Had similar teachings as a youth, though from the Evangelical side in the 70s.

Let’s see, anti-abortion (even for rape victims or when the mother would die), anti-gay marriage, how to teach my children in schools and what they need to recite, how I should live my life… shall I continue?

The Christian religious agenda is the one forcing their opinions on others… I don’t see this from Buddhists, Jews or Muslims.

The Constitution says that there will be no state religion established OR infringment by goernment on a citizens pursiit of that religion. Ted, you must be “stupid, stupid, stupid.”

If they get ill on their journey, let’s hope they go to the hospital founded by athiests, rather than one started by the people of faith, assuming there actually is one.
The fact is, looking at history, athiests have done much more evil and believers much more good that the other way around.
Be grateful for what God has blessed you with.

Atheists are the most under-represented group in Congress (1 atheist in the house, compared to 50 million atheists in the US).

Atheists in the US complain about Christians because Christianity is the dominant religion in the US. Atheists in the middle east would complain about Islam, if it weren’t for the fact that they’d get killed over it. Thanks for that improvement, by the way – doesn’t mean we couldn’t make things even better.

http://www.GodHasAnApp.com

One atheist, who will never know the wonder,beauty and happiness of forgiven sins and hope for life eternal is one too many. I will spend time praying they will turn to God and spend eternity with me in Heaven.

If you believe in an Almighty God that gave us “freedom to choose” as a basic right, certainly it is logical that that God would have created an entire Univers in which his existence and potential coersion would be perfectly hidden!

As a student of science, He seems to have done a masterful job of launching this place with a big bang that evolves effortlessly on his part into a self sustaining explosion of life and energy and now THOUGHT… all without revealing his hand in a scientifically proveable or dis-proveable way.

Hold out YOUR hand in front of you. See it? Believe it? Recognize that it is 98% or more empty space between particles of energy the most brilliant of us can only fathom as vibrating strings of energy and “forces”. Plenty of room there for what we “don’t know” is’t there?

So keep unraveling the onion skins of creation. My bet is He will maintain his “deniabiliy” as long as he wants us to choose rather than be dictated to.

In any case, the discipline does me (and a lot of other people) a great deal of good. It is hard to be an egotist when you are reminded daily of how far you’ve fallen short of your intensions.

I, like Mr. Silverman apparently, am also a Republican Atheist. However, as a Republican, i value consistency, and a live and let live philosophy. So I don’t like to throw my non-belief in every one’s face anymore than i like it when people throw their religion in my face.

Jakartaman,
Maybe you should attend the rally and meet an atheist. We are a diverse group of people that cannot be stereotyped as all democrats and socialist. I, like Bro Mack, am conservative, educated and atheist.

There is no way there are 50 million Atheists in this country. I bet the vast majority of those being counted are agnostic. I wonder what sort of policies they want to promote that are not being promoted? If altruistic atheism is carried to its only logical conclusion it always involves eugenics, nobody can deny that, because if they were correct it would make sense to breed better people just like we do dogs and horses…why does he claim they are the most hated (and by whom?), that is a totally subjective and unprovable claim – I thought atheists avoid believing in unprovable things. Why did the atheist cross the road? Because he had to prove to himself there was another side… in death do they cross to find they were double crossed by the one who hates the cross.

Ted is really disappoints me how you fail to recognize when muslims forces their religion on the state. The middle east is filled of theocracies and sharia law is starting to be embed into British law. Dont be so blind.

It WOULD be humerous if lightning struck them ….

Silverman states “What’s more important: the Bible or the Constitution? Do they want theocracy? Do they want Christianity as the official religion, and if so, which version?”
First of all, those questions are all red herrings but I ask you Mr Silverman, what’s more important: atheism or freedom? You see, the constitution is clear; our rights derive from God. Atheists who proclaim there is no god are on dangerous ground with respect to their rights and ultimately, their freedom. If our rights are not God-given then what are they based on? A social compact? The pleasure of the government? Majority rule? All of these arrangements are a recipe for disaster.

As an athiest, I ask only that religious folk afford my views the same respect I afford theirs, which is considerable.

I’ve never been in any serious conflict with the religious, and don’t plan to start.

How about we just get the government out of marriage and civil unions altogether?

Everyone is an atheist… at least with respect to every god but one. Atheists just go one god further.

Also, everyone is born an atheist.

Evolution in the Darwinian model doesn’t explain how life was created, just that organisms evolve through natural selection. And no, it does not violate the laws of genetics.

“I pray for our country”

If you were really worried you might try doing something that would actually make any difference at all.

Where in the constitution does it say our rights derive from god?

Don’t you think you ought to know what you’re talking about before you start giving your opinion on things?

Atheists unite. Follow Comrade Lenin’s philosophy. Down with religion, especially that Jesus stuff. Old hat and it doesn’t add any value.

Because you choose NOT to believe in a deity, why would like-minded people gather “…to dispel stereotypes, and to rally for legislative equality.”? I have never been discriminated against for believing in a God; as a matter of fact, the topic has never come up at a job interview. And, answer – this one for me – why do so many atheists cry to God for forgiveness on their deathbeds? Enlighten me…

Life is too short to waste time praying to invisible sky daddies.

Dam atheists are more trouble than the Jesus freaks.

A magical being who lives in the sky snapping his fingers is a more plausible explanation than natural selection?

Fascinating perspective: atheists as a persecuted minority. That is definitely a minority opinion, historically speaking. Many people developed formal philosophies (religions) out of their atheism. Marx, Darwin, Mill, Nietzsche, Lenin, Sanger, Freud, Mead, Hitler, Machiavelli, Hobbes, Descartes, Rousseau, Friedan come to mind. They inspired and/or perpetrated the murder of hundreds of millions of people. (Including abortions. Since there is nothing after an atheist life, abortion is a non-event, ethically speaking.)
American-Style Democracy is a wholly a Christian thing. If North America had been organized and governmentalized by other than Bible-believing Christians, it would be a continent of marginally functional European-style monarchies, in an endless cycle of internal and external war. At least that’s how George Washington characterized it in his farewell address.)

I’m amused by these statement by the BRILLIANT!!!!!! Stephen Hawking, noted atheist.

“Because there is a law such as gravity, the Universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the Universe exists, why we exist.”

He added: “It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the Universe going.”

Law of gravity? By definition, a law is created by an intelligent mind for a specific purpose that introduces a degree of order. Science merely *discovers* physical laws and gains understanding of the implementation and effects of these laws. But we humans create other laws that our abilities enable us to create. Physical laws are beyond our pay grade.

If we choose to be logical about this matter, we would have to consider the likeliness of an entity that can create these laws we observe that is within that entity’s pay grade. Could it be…..God? (This is where the militant atheist is expected to abandon reason with the goal of refuting this logic)

Do you actively believe there is no Allah? What entitles you to that?

Atheists disbelief in god is exactly the same as their disbelief in a giant poodle orbiting Saturn. Skeptical until shown a single bit of evidence.

I don’t believe in aliens. Can we have a rally too?
This is like the Jackson million man march, where a few thousand showed up.
I just don’t believe they will get more than a few hundred, unless they get infiltrated by the OWS leftist and anarchist groups, in which case they’d get a few hundred more.

Be interesting to see if the media gives them as much coverage as the pro-life rally not long ago, which essentially means, they would get none.
Oh wait, they’ve already gotten more media coverage than the pro-life rally did.

Please give proof and examples of how the government has tried to impose Christianity of any variety or any religious faith for that matter on its citizens. In all seriousness are they serious? Do they really think the government is trying to make everyone be a Christian? Or is it rather that they would sanitize religion and Christianity especially from any presence in the culture?

So the hell what. First rally I can remember that is being held to NOT purpose anything! Another group of imbeciles.

How so? What is so troublesome about atheists having a rally?

The American founding was a wholly secular endeavor. If not, why does the constitution not mention God or Jesus a single time?

Also, Hitler used catholic rhetoric and the Third Reich was a totally religiously-based movement.

If everyone is and was born an atheist then how did the very first person become a theist?

I’m an Obama Athiest.
I don’t believe he has a freaking clue.

Somehow I am betting that if they are all there rallying at the mall and an announcement is made that there are several incoming nuclear warheads, it will quickly become a conversion rally..

It takes a lot of faith to be an atheist…TFChesterfield

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the religion , the cult of Atheism is as intolerant and bigoted and dangerous as an Occupy event

Rally has now been changed to April 1st for all interested parties.

That is repeated atheist deception used to smear Catholicism. Hitler hated Catholic principles and only called himself that to smear the church, its kind of like what you have today with Pelosi and Sebelius. I know I know, why didn’t the Catholic church stand up against him or banish him the atheists say – its because he would have killed their members, and they did take an official stand as soon as it was safe to do so. The Pope and Bishops were not concerned about themselves, he was going to take it out on the church members…sending others to their martyrdom is against Catholic principles.

How do we know it’s massive before it happens? Sounds like CBS is promoting this.

Atheists proselytizing. Wotta world.

Atheists to me you people are fine if you are a non-believer, good that is your free will, and if. there is no God you shouldn,t have any prblem either that will show to all mankind how wise you all were . But if God ,Jaweh the Grand Architect or any way you name the Deity exist then your Science and your tepidity will not help you at all..

To believe that there is no God, you have to believe in God.

JC. You could enlighten yourself by reading your own comment. You promote the stereotype that “so many atheists cry to God for forgiveness on their deathbeds”. That is untrue, and it is a stereotype that like-minded atheists want to dispel.

An atheist activist is just another activist…Why do theists have a burning desire to publicize their atheism?
It would be better if they just went on with their lives and didn’t bother people…

I bet more Liberals/Progressives are atheists than are conservatives, and more Christians are conservatives. Preogressivism/Marxism believes that people can improve and perfect themselves without God, whereas Christians believe that we live in a world broken by sin (rebellion against God), all people have sinned and are separted from God, and that only God’s grace can save us from being eternally separated from Him. We choose to remain separated when we reject Him.

Thank God!

They sure put in a lot of effort to let people know they believe in nothing,have faith in nothing and have nothing much to say than to tell those of us who do we’re stupid because we’re not them. I think I’d rather go to church.

This is hilarious coming from someone co-opting the name of John Galt. Are you aware that the Objectivist philosophy espoused by Ayn Rand was a staunchly Atheistic philosophy? Not only did she not believe in God, but she felt religion had no value in society.

http://solohq.org/Articles/Parille/Ayn_Rand,_Objectivism,_and_Religion_(Part_1_of_4).shtml

this is refreshing I am so tired of politicians trying to appeal to the religious nuts.
how many presidential candidates were told by god to run for office.
Its ludicrous, I want my elected officials to actually solve problems and not rely on prayer to get the job done.

Of course obama is not an atheist.

He believes that he is god.

I think it started with that first breath of air outside the womb, or that first suckle of milk. …it expanded from there when the wonder of life exposed itself around them. Then they started thinking “I am GOD and these are my servants!”
And unless they raised as spoiled brats, the first missled bottle feeding and spanking quickly disuaded them from the belief that they were THE ONE.
(Present occupant of the White House and many other politicians seemed to miss that step in their evolution to being a complete person, in doubt of their divinity and hopeful of purpose in life.)

Athiests are just as smug and intolerant of religious people as teh other way around.

I suppose they won’t do the Pledge of Allegiance, sing God Bless America and humns, have an opening prayer or benediction, etc. Just what will they do?

“to dispel stereotypes, and to rally for legislative equality.”
You mean the equality where 1 person stops a school football team from saying a prayer beforre a game, or the equality of 5 people in a town of 10,000 getting the city hall to remove a placque with the Ten Commandments ? Is that the “equality” these clowns want ?
How about a dose of reality instead. We Christians outnumber you. We Jews outnumberr you. We Muslims outnumber you. YOU DON’T GET YOUR WAY ANYMORE !!!

“For centuries, theologians have been explaining the unknowable in terms of the-not-worth-knowing.”
- Henry Louis Mencken

————- http://911essentials.com

I hope there is a LIGHTNING STORM!!! Maybe then they will BELIEVE!!

I used to believe that the creator of the universe implanted himself in the womb of a Jewish virgin so he could be born as a man and tortured to death, because that was the only way he could figure out how to forgive me and everyone else for the sins of a couple I really doubted ever existed in the first place, who committed the crime of eating a piece of fruit. And then I decided that was too weird to keep believing.

It outrages me that you are deliberatley and deceitfully using outdated data. 2004? Are you kidding me?? This is 2012. Recent years have seen the publication of many wonderful, brilliant books by authors Hitchens, Dawkins, Harris, etc. Atheism and agnosticism is now the fastest growing “belief” system in this country, making up approximately 17% of the population. That’s a fact, easily supported by a simple google search. By the way, the numbers in western europe approach 70-80%. We are well on the way. Keep clinging to your lies and fairy tales, and keep believeing that anyone who doesn’t share your beliefs will burn in hell forever. How comforting.

Well Richard Brown, I had to chuckle at your childish attack that I must be “stupid, stupid, stupid,” since a giant red squiggly line appears below the words goernment and pursiit indicating they are misspelled yet you plowed right through regardless to attack my intelligence.

I have no problem with Christianity as long as they don’t dictate how I should act, think or enjoy my life in this great country of ours. When they start pushing their values and agendas on me is when I push back… it really has no bearing on what they choose to believe in, and I certainly don’t try to push my beliefs on others contrary to the general accusations here. This march is about awareness… people saying we are here and we are unified. It is no different than the tea party movements or the million man march.

P.S. Other Ted, we are talking about the U.S. Not the Middle East or England. If that was even remotely happening here, I would have a problem with it as well.

Atheism is liberating. I have never felt so free since I discarded the baggage I was saddled with as a child growing up in an evangelical church.

We know you like us, Rick! LOL

Supreme Court should be proud of the monster it has created in society.

The word is out that there will be a big Obama handout on the mall, more free stuff in case you missed out on food stamps, free cell phones and other goodies. C’mon folks, let’s go get some stuff. There might even be some free Bibles.

A deist believes there is a creator who made everything and walked away.
A theist believes there is a creator who made everything and then has stuck around to tweak stuff that he didn’t get right in the first place, or in response to supplications from believers, who request his assistance.
By definition, an atheist does not believe the latter. The former is optional.

You’re failing reading comprehension. Just because you are an atheist who is not a liberal does not preclue the probablity that Mr. Silverman represents leftist secular values more than mere agnosticism.

You are exactly right. It is only the Antitheist who are against God, they protest God for reasons known only to them and protest against us believers. They know God exists and are against HIm True Atheists could not care less, they pay taxes, are moral people and are mostly good citizens like us Theists .I see no conflict. There is another group who are Agnostics who sijmply do not know…..

Good on you, but you are part of a very small minority. Liberal ideas BEGIN with throwing God out of EVERYTHING. Conservative values at least allow people to choose.

Conservatism is about God given rights and liberty, not government. It is impossible for an atheist to be truly conservative.

Many are called, few are chosen.

As soon as your friends stop knocking on my door LOL.

But Atheism is a religion, contrary to their popular belief. They are the anti-religion religion. They believe in themselves, that they are superior in intellect and that anyone who believes in religion is an ignorant fool. They teach for doctrine the commandments of men, having a form of Godliness, but denying the power thereof. That scripture speaks squarely to the atheistic movement.

Toady: Atheist does not equal adeism. I don’t care to argue about the existence of a deist god (see the Watchmaker analogy), because deism cannot be proven, nor can it be disproven. Furthermore, the existence of or belief in a deist creator is inconsequential. It is when people start spouting about interventionalist gods that I have to speak up.

I’ll grant you that absence of proof is not equal to proof of absence, but that works both ways. I can’t prove that conscious matter can arise from unconscious matter (except for the fact that my dog was asleep this earlier today and is now awake…oh, wait, he’s asleep again). But neither can anyone prove the existence of an interventionalist god (theism).

JustAGuy: “Could it be…..God?” This is analogous to a child wondering who traded a quarter for the tooth he left under his pillow. The child doesn’t understand how the quarter got there, nor does he know the fate of his old tooth. But, someone told him that it was…..The Tooth Fairy! So, he believes it must have been The Tooth Fairy after all. Wiithout evidence to the contrary, the child goes on believing what he was told. No need for proof, just rely on hearsay and don’t demand any further explanation.

People love to say that atheists are arrogant, but it is the atheists who say that they DON’T KNOW THE ANSWERS, but that the ansers offered so far make no sense. It is the “believers” who arrogantly claim to KNOW THE ANSWERS, because it is written in the book that was handed down to them.

50K People tops

They won’t even get close to the recent pro-God rally on 8/28/2010.

Each person there believes in a god; themselves. This is why our society is in such trouble…

One of the reasons I have rejected religion is because it constantly stands in the way of scientific progress, it abuses children and women, and it justifies violence. You cannot pay someone to fly planes into buildings — they won’t be around to spend the money. The only way you can get people to fight to the death is by promising them something in the hereafter – something you conveniently never have to deliver. Religion is a force of superstition so dramatically counterproductive to the evolution of the human race (and yes, we are evolving) that it is indeed important to actively denounce it.

I see many posts here that refer to atheism as “negative belief”. That’s incorrect. “A” means “without” (as for example, “asymmetric” means “without symmetry”) and “theist” means “one with a belief in God(s)”. So an atheist is “one without a belief in god(s).” The absence of a belief is not itself a belief. There are people who say they are atheists who assert there is no god. Proving that negative—whether or not it is true—is a very difficult challenge. It is going beyond what it means to be an atheist. Generally people don’t spend time and energy on things about which they have no beliefs. A gathering of theists has a core belief in something supernatural. A gathering of atheists has a core belief in a natural world that is, at least potentially, understandable. There can be value in such a gathering, at least for the participants.

I’m a staunch Christian and a liberal for sodial justice reasons (that was the most critical of Christ’s messages was our responsibility to the poor) but my husband is an agnostic/atheist and he’s a republican. Your generalizations aren’t doing you well!

I do not believe in Atheists, therefore they can not possibly exist. How could “they” supposedly rally?

I would argue that the same humility applies to the atheist, who gazes on the sky and admits that he doesn’t know all of the answers…unlike the evangelical who has the answers in his little book.

Were you taught that the cracker and wine really turn into the flesh and blood of a deity-man? And were you taught that not eating fish on Friday was a mortal sin (and then taught that Jesus changed his mind)?

I predict that attendees will number in the hundreds. It’s one thing not to believe in God. It’s another to believe that’s a reason for a rally.

This is nonsense. You could also say “To believe that there is no purple magic sentient potato, you have to believe in a purple magic sentient potato.”

And yet the authors of the Declaration of Independence stated that men are created equal that they are endowed BY THEIR CREATOR with certain unailienable rights…..yea, they didn’t believe in God.

This is really funny. No one hates atheists. And it’s even funnier when you consider it’s the Christians that are the most hated and hunted by the liberals and the mainstream media…not to mention hate groups such as the SPLC and the ACLU. This country has the Christians clinging to their guns and Bibles.

Aethiests are just Jews without the beanies.

I pray God will open up the ground and swallow up all the atheists, either way at the end of this earth age every knee shall bow to God and they will know that he exists

I’d be an atheist, but the holidays suck.

By the logic of the previous posters, Christianity is a negative belief because it preaches that Zeus doesn’t exist.

They can march all they want…as many as they can gather. Doesn’t change a thing. There still is a God and always will be. One day everyone who has ever lived will not only know it, but confess it. Unfortunately, some insist on confessing it from Hell.

Mark Twain’s war prayer is frequently quoted.

Mendel’s experiments on pea plant allele inheritance were done in a single species, whereas evolution concerns (amongst other things) the genesis of new species. These are separate games, they are played by following different rules. The rediscovery of Mendel’s works at the turn of the 20th century, along with the discovery of the chromosome as a unit of inheritance, let to the development of the the Sutton-Bovieri Theory, which provided a mechanistic explanation of the rules of Mendelian inheritance. It was not until much more recently that it was discovered that genomic rearrangements had occurred throughout evolution causing speciation events (paleopolyploidy occurred in Poaceae and Eudicots), though mankind has taken advantage of these method of speciation in agriculture before (e.g. the development of Triticale wheat in the early 20th century).

“Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.” W.F. Buckley Jr.

…and, unfortunately, Michael you are also doomed. That breaks my herat. It should terrify yours. Especially when the choice is so easy.

Yes, it’s a conspiracy.

You’ve raised “gibberish” to an art form.

@betrand,

NOPE! Atheists are certain in their belief that there is no god. Just ask them! Agnostics are the ones who will say they don’t know. But when asked a few more questions, most agnostics reveal they’re actually atheists but don’t want to commit themselves.

And your tooth fairy scenario is a bit silly. It is easily learned that the one who placed the coin under the pillow is the parent, unless the parent chooses to lie to their child. And what good parent lies to their children?

Let’s pray for these poor souls who are on their way and treading on path that leads to destruction. On the day when the God of heaven brings his judgment upon the world for there SINS and rejecting the Lord Jesus Christ, Atheist will only have themselves to blame. Psalm 14:1 says Only the fool believes in his heart there is no God. This is how every we are to look upon the Atheist (a fool). For the god of this evil has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. 2 Cor 4:3,4. The next time any Christian speaks with one of these lost souls share with him or her that God ( The Lord Jesus Christ) who is ruler over all who sits next to the Father in Heaven, while putting all his enemies under his feet as a foot stool, (that includes everyone in all of history) who will judge the whole world including these Atheist, and they will bow down to his Majesty), share with them how much Jesus loves them and the price he paid with his precious blood on the Cross for there Sins. Let’s not hate these misguided and blind Atheist, for Satan has used them like a puppet to do his bidding and they aren’t aware. The same way he deceives everyone else who have rejected the truth that can set them free. John 14:6; Acts 4:12; John 3:36. Again Let’s pray for them ,as well as for President Obama, both political parties, and every socialist, communist, and every racist that includes those that are black or white or Asian,or Mexican, or Indian etc…. and every false religion from Islam to Mormonism, Judaism,Jehovah’s witness, Hindu, Emergent Church, Universalism, etc……. and even every liberal so called Christians who are nothing more than fraudulent and charlatan at best. Everyone will not go to heaven only those who believe that JESUS CHRIST DIED FOR THE SINS AND ARE DOING THE WILL OF FATHER. Oh yeah i forgot to mention the Catholic CHURCH WHO BELIEVE IN WORKS PLUS JESUS WHICH IS NOT BIBLICAL,CHECK EPHESIANS 2:8,9

They are lost and full of pride.. Pray for the lost don’t condemn them.

Wow. How does it feel , I really want to know, truly, how does it actually FEEL to be so stupid??

Moderate religion is the foundation for extremists.

What is your evidence that Zeus does not exist?

I bet this rally has less people at it than the Pro-Life March that happens every year in January. I also guarantee it will have far, far, far more coverage by the socialist media. There is no balance anymore.
Who wants to be they will claim to have more attendees than were at Beck’s rally on the mall last year? Let’s see if they have the photos to prove it.

Amen,

Clinging to my guns and faith!

According to your reasoning, somebody can’t be ‘anti-gay marriage’ since gay marraige doesn’t exist.

Hear, hear!

I will be praying for all of them. That is all I can do as a man.

The fact that this rally is occurring on Good Friday speaks for itself.

To all those who say atheists are not despised, please read the post above.

The media will use the Million Man March counting method. Count the number of folks plus reporters and vendors, multiply by ten, double that and report the number as the amount gathered so far.

LOL!!!

So is the gathering of a group of people to celebrate the belief of non-belief a tax-exempt non-religion religion?

FutureUser gets his science from his preacher. He’s not interested in reality.

Pyschologists believe that man has to have something greater than himself to believe in, for his mental health, and a belief in God is a deeply ingrained human trait for the good of societies and mankind.

Therefore, Atheists are by definition insane.

They’ll wish they had “believed” when they find themselves crying out from Hell. Sadly, it’s too late then.

If they are, it will have the same effect as not praying for it.

True freedom comes from Jesus Christ. The irrational thinking – that one can know there is no God – is unnatural.

“Silverman stated, adding that despite his Republican affiliation”

Hard to believe anything the president of AA will say, when he’s clearly not being honest with the above statement. Anyone who has followed AA through the past presidential election, knows Silverman is a dyed in the wool liberal.

Sure does! Militant atheists won’t attack Islam. If they did, there might a few atheists with their heads carved off. So they go after the easy target, Christianity!

Ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Why does everyone have to pray? Does prayer work like a democracy? The more people who pray, the better the chances that God will capitulate? And what kind of response would you expect from God? Will he disrupt the weather patterns abruptly and surprise the meteorologists? Or will physics continue onward with seemingly no change from the norm? Does the creator of the universe need prayer to notify him of this event? Or to notify him of the disapproval of believers? What a weak, pathetic, utterly HUMAN god that would be!

IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

It appears to be unnatural because of the way our brains work. We have evolved to rely on false positives to survive. God is just another false positive.

Ezekiel 33:11 “Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways…”

@JustAGuy

Critical thinking demands that we don’t make blind assumptions. You cannot make an assertion with no proof and posit it as truth. Where is the proof of an interventionalist god? Atheists would, in fact, say that they do not understand the origin of life or of the universe. But they will argue with anyone who demands that there must be a god because there is no better explanation.

The idea behind the tooth fairy analogy was to expose your rhetorical question (“Could it be…..God?”): you offer “God” as an explanation for that which you don’t understand, instead of admitting that you don’t understand.

And as to “what good parent lies to their children?” I have to wonder if you’re referring to the church here…

I used to be intimidated by these kinds of threats but then, I was a child. Now, these threats have no more power over me. I now know and understand that the Bible is an arbitrary set of fairy tales made up by male desert nomads for the sole purpose of controlling other people (especially women) through superstition. You can blow this stuff all you want, but the acts of God still appear to have the same odds as Las Vegas.

Wow, all this time I never knew I was Jewish LOL.

Prove there is no Zeus.

If JustAGuy cannot prove that Zeus does not exist, then Zeus must therefore exist.

Before any of you criticize; why not wait until the rally? I’m betting socialists, communists, and marxists will be (ahem) overly represented. And before you criticize him for “making it political” – I’m betting they will, too.

They could’ve gone en masse to the Democrat Party convention and saved lots of money and planning headaches.

What is there to celebrate, or hold a big rally about? And, in what way are they discriminated against? Nobody cares if they are atheist or not, unless they want to work in a church.

Holes in our logic? Your Bible says that the world was created 6,000 years ago, that the earth was actually created a day or two BEFORE the sun, that if you discover your wife wasn’t a virgin you should stone her to death on her father’s doorsteps, and we have holes in OUR logic?? Thanks for the belly laugh.

Wrong, Roger. It’s never to late until they die. If that occurs without them having established an eternal relationship with the real Messiah, Jesus–then that’s too late.

They will not be atheists much longer. Every knee shall bow and besides God does not believe in atheists.

LOL!!!!!!! I recall when Obama said electing him will cause the oceans to begin lowering and the world to be healed.

…..and the Obama Faithful believed him!

My apologies, Roger. I misread what you wrote. I fully agree with you.

Sorry, Mack, but it most certainly is political. Why else hold a rally and do so in Washington? Secularists have been imposing their system of values onto the rest of the country for decades. During that time, there have been few champions of traditional values fighting them in the culture war. This is just a rally to get people fired up to renew their efforts to demonize and marginalize social conservatives.

Here is the true problem…There would not be a Bill of Rights or a Constitution for that matter without God…
Our Forefathers knew that the laws of man were subjective. (That means that whoever is in power makes the rules.)

They deemed our laws handed down from God…(because there is no one bigger)…That way our laws were founded on something bigger than the next dictator. This was for your equal protection…Your right to be Atheistic…or Christian…Now it you legilate from the stand point there is no God you have no Bill of Rights or Constitution.

Ain’t that the truth.

“My argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust? If the whole show was bad and senseless from A to Z, so to speak, why did I, who was supposed to be part of the show, find myself in such violent reaction against it? A man feels wet when he falls into water, because man is not a water animal: a fish would not feel wet. Of course, I could have given up my idea of justice by saying that it was nothing but a private idea of my own. But if I did that, then my argument against God collapsed too–for the argument depended on saying that the world was really unjust, not simply that it did not happen to please my private fancies. Thus in the very act of trying to prove that God did not exist–in other words, that the whole of reality was senseless–I found I was forced to assume that one part of reality–namely my idea of justice–was full of sense. Consequently atheism turns out to be too simple. If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning: just as, if there were no light in the universe and therefore no creatures with eyes, we should never know it was dark. Dark would be without meaning.” CS Lewis

David Silverman’s approach to atheism is akin to Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell’s approach to Christianity, namely in looking down their nose at people who don’t follow their beliefs. As such, his chances of generating tolerance aren’t likely.

For good entrainment, pull up The Daily Show’s utter dismantling of his publicity stunt lawsuit against the 9/11 “cross”

And I didn’t know I was part of a Marxist conglomeration. Well, it is what it is, Earl. I just want to say that it is very nice to meet you, comrade. L’chaim!

I am always happy to debate believers, because deep down, they are searching, trying to justify their beliefs, working the arguments their preachers have worked on them, but this time to an audience which believes in reason. Remember the Bible is a collection of miscellaneous “books” (hardly books by the modern definition) voted into the current Bible by a bunch of superstitious, power-hungry men in the Dark Ages. This was a time in which God punished everyone in a village for the actions of a single witch. And when the holy men would do God’s work by burning the women of an entire village at the stake to ensure that no witches would survive. That is the origin of what believers believe today. I was brought up to believe it and 20 years ago, I though that atheists were wacko. Today, it’s like I have woken from a bad dream. I can’t believe I ever swallowed that garbage! It is so ridiculous, it’s really beyond belief. To think that the creator of the universe had to implant himself in the womb of a Jewish virgin to be born as a man and tortured to death because that was the only way he could figure out how to forgive ME for something “Adam and Eve” did? (And they ate a piece of fruit LOL) Absolutely, positively PREPOSTEROUS! So believers, keep searching, and one day, you will be liberated! May I suggest as a first step, read the book God Is Not Great by Christopher Hitchens. See you at the rally!

God bless them! Hiyoooo!

Hey, Earl, call God a fairy tale, if you want. Be as sarcastic as you can about Christianity. You do so at the peril of losing your eternal life. But you were never meant for that hellish real estate.——-May the Good Lord bring you to your knees if that’s what’s required to save your soul.

Atheist or not, if they are for less government, less spending, more personal responsibility, etc. I’ll march hand in hand with them.

Michel: Just stop, you’re dealing with DrudgeBots….which is futile.

LOL I am always happy to debate believers, because deep down, they are searching, trying to justify their beliefs, working the arguments their preachers have worked on them, but this time to an audience which believes in reason. Remember the Bible is a collection of miscellaneous “books” (hardly books by the modern definition) voted into the current Bible by a bunch of superstitious, power-hungry men in the Dark Ages. This was a time in which God punished everyone in a village for the actions of a single witch. And when the holy men would do God’s work by burning the women of an entire village at the stake to ensure that no witches would survive. That is the origin of what believers believe today. I was brought up to believe it and 20 years ago, I though that atheists were wacko. Today, it’s like I have woken from a bad dream. I can’t believe I ever swallowed that garbage! It is so ridiculous, it’s really beyond belief. To think that the creator of the universe had to implant himself in the womb of a Jewish virgin to be born as a man and tortured to death because that was the only way he could figure out how to forgive ME for something “Adam and Eve” did? (And they ate a piece of fruit LOL) Absolutely, positively PREPOSTEROUS! So believers, keep searching, and one day, you will be liberated! May I suggest as a first step, read the book God Is Not Great by Christopher Hitchens. See you at the rally!

Please don’t suggest that only religious people oppose abortion. Religious institutions provide much of the organizational resources used in the fight against abortion, but one need not believe in God to believe that killing another person in order to avoid the inconvenience of a pregnancy is a terrible thing.

This is what the Obama socialists have been hoping for (I almost said praying for, but I know better). The USA’s days are numbered. Good job, all you godless!

Good job in displaying just the kind of negitive attitudes towards athiesm that Silverman was speaking of.

Earl – I don’t think that presenting a sarcastic caricature of Christianity is winning you any adherents. You’re using a common tactic of the so-called “new” atheists where you try to belittle the other side as much as possible by presenting theological tenets in the most ridiculous way possible that would seemingly invite criticism. Yet if you have a background in Christian teaching (as you claim) you know deep down that the doctrine of the Incarnation (not to mention the sacraments and soteriology in general) is much more complex than that. Christianity is a thinking religion built upon, in addition to revelation, 2000 years of intellectual history – epistemological systems, brilliant anthropological models, etc. etc. You may not believe in Christ and that is entirely up to you. But if you’re going to try to make converts to atheism from Christianity, you might want to change your tactics.

CKAinRedStateUSA thanks for the threats, but I’m used to them, they do not bother me. There is no God who would do evil to make anyone believe in him. And if there was, I would disavow him. It is illogical and unreasonable for a perfect God to create sentient beings and torture them. Original sin? Baloney! Go blow it out your ear, and may your children forgive you for instilling the threats of eternal torture and guilt into their lives.

For a good discussion on this tpoic, visit the hilarious website whydoesgodhateamputees.com.

Name one thing that has ever been permanent.

There are no atheists in fox holes.

Really, then what is it a rally for? Please stick to selling “stupid” to liberals.

This CBS news alert is the extent of the main stream media that this rally will get.

What will you accomplish with that?

I’m with Bro Mack. Been a conservative my entire life AND a atheist since I turned 21 (52 years ago). Been all over the world many times and NEVER saw one religion that could stand the light of day.

If there was a God, do you really think he would be stupid enough to require everyone to worship him even once a week? And if so, WHY? I was a registered Republican until they started wrapping themselves in the bible. Yes, I understand about bringing the bible thumpers to the polls to support the Republicans, but where else could the go? Godless Democrats would not be a choice.

I fear the ultra right wing bible thumpers/tea party and other whack jobs are going to end up putting an unelectable candidate as the Republican nominee on the ballot in November. I just hope they don’t elevate Nancy back as SOTH.

Ok, again Earl, you have to know that the formation of the biblical canon was nothing like you describe. It’s so easy to make up a silly tale about “bad, controlling, superstitious men” who just wanted to dominate people and thus “decided” by committee that they liked certain books and others they did not. Nothing like that ever happened. The formation of the canon was a gradual process that came to an end in the middle of the fourth century. So I understand it’s fun to make light of the early Christians as being fools and bumpkins, but you truly (TRULY) need to study your history before you make such ahistorical claims. It’s fine if you’re rejecting Christianity and its history; but first you need to have a better, more realistic idea of what you’re rejecting.

Reason is man’s route to knowledge, so do you ponder big questions like how did the universe begin? Anyone who is a pure atheist is really an anti-theist, which is why I could respect Christopher Hitchens for at least being honest about himself, but if you can’t admit that then you should be agnostic and leave it at that… but getting back to the reason and creation. If you believe that matter sponteously generated from nothing during the big bang, then you are essentially admitting that something came from nothing, which is impossible according to scientific principles… what was the cause? If you admit you don’t know, then at least you are honest, but if you believe that we will one day have a scientific explanation they you are putting just as much FAITH in science as a theist does God.

I am a Christian. You non-believers are rolling the dice that there is no God. There is no Hell. You are betting that you will not be punished for your “belief” and your actions. That your debauchery will go unnoticed and there is no payment for what you have lived.

If you are wrong then you burn. Pain, suffering, gnashing of teeth and you will chew your own tongue to forget about all the other pain your body is in.

If I am wrong, oh well, off to whatever.

So I choose to believe and try and follow a Christian way of life, which means asking for forgiveness often.

You are hoping you are right so you will not be burned. That is why you scream and yell the loudest, why you hate Christians, why you hate Christmas, Jesus, God and everything religious because it means you just might be wrong and you know where that will lead you. Yes, guilt and fear are tough emotions to live with. It is no wonder to me that most of you act the way you do. You try and convince yourself you are right because deep in your heart you are scared. If not now, on your death bed I bet you turn Christian real fast.

50 million atheists? That’s a lot of Obama votes. Get ready for the Bible burning mass rallies.

Aman

Millions of people around the world believe in hundreds of different gods just as fervently as any Christian does. But, .I’ve never heard of anyone who believes in every god. We are all atheists with respect to the other person’s god. The only difference between me and a Christian or any theist is that I don’t believe in any gods.

There is a God if you want to refer to the laws of physics that way.

I don’t think any honest person here says they are not despised AT ALL, its just not appropriate for the guy to claim atheists are ‘the most hated’… the statement needs clarification, hated by whom? The most? Really? Its overly dramatic and subjective, there is no proof for that, so therefore you should not believe it.

They’re not threats, Earl. And, yes, the Good Lord could do what you consider evil, though it would not be, if required to turn your heart from stone to flesh. Two examples: Saul of Tarsus and Jonah.————For sure, you cannot understand that. As the Apostle Paul (nee Saul of Tarsus) said in his first letter to the church in Corinth: “But the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.”———–My prayer still stands for you And I hope someday you will understand that.———Oh, yes: You have no idea of what I’ve instilled or not, nor for what I should be forgiven or what I’ve asked for forgiveness.———May God bless you and your family.

So your all loving creator designed an eternal torture chamber beyond human comprehension and will send His children there to suffer forever if they choose not to believe in Him, despite providing no evidence that He even exists? I am required to believe in something which mankes no logical sense, and for which there is not one shred of evidence, at the risk of eternal damnation. I will be sent to the fires of hell forever, even though he loves me very much. Got it.

All religions adopt a system of values. The primary values of the U.S., that is, those things that are considered virtuous and those that are considered worthy of condemnation by most U.S. citizens are the values of Western Civilization which have been transmitted through Jewish and Christian sects. Promoting respect for the Judeo-Christian value system is not the same thing as promoting theocracy.

Secularists (progressives) have been attacking such virtues as accepting personal responsibility for one’s actions and one’s own life, controlling one’s passions and respecting the concerns of others for over two hundred years. When social conservatives push back against the irresponsibility, selfishness and narcissism promoted by secularists, the secularists invariably accuse social conservatives of trying to establish a theocracy, but the demographics of America make the establishment of a national religion politically impossible even if it were allowed by the Constitution.

The accusations about establishing a theocracy is idiotic. It can’t happen and no one of any importance or influence even talks about it. What you are really complaining about is that you engage or want to engage in behaviors that society disapproves of and you condemn Western religion as the source of the values that condemn your behavior. If you really don’t like the value system that created the best country in the world, why don’t you find another country to live in?

No kidding. What’s the point of meeting to validate your belief in nothing? They really meet to devalue anyone who doesn’t agree with them. I’ve got better things to do than be bitter against everyone who doesn’t agree with me on everything! Proud believer.

MASSIVE!!!!!!

In other words, about 45 anarchists, 23 communists, 38 socialists, 87 paid trolls, 430 bussed in union members is the NEW massive.

Of course, 145,000 anti baby killers is just normal. Right you frelling leftists!

Any bets the place will be a pig sty when the atheists leave? Did the headline refer to the “stronger” stench?

They don’t believe in religion but still take off Christmas and Easter like the rest of us. I don’t see atheists walking up to their boss giving holiday money back from their paycheck or asking why they can’t work that day.

Ridiculous! I guess you’ve never spent much time with atheists or you would see that some are quite militant. Dawkins, Myers (who behaved very badly toward my father in a Creation museum situation – some of the atheists in the group were ashamed and said so). Why would atheists continually go to Creation museums and such, and mobilize to antagonize Christian groups? If that’s not hate, then I don’t know what it is.

E) They want to build their political power and influence to get to the point where they can rely on something more direct and forceful than political correctness and media smears to persecute anyone who advocates traditional values.
F) The rise in the political fortunes of Rich Santorum has frightened secularists with the possibility that America may finally elect a President that doesn’t shy away from challenging the left in the culture war.

Yeah, voices of reason !!!

To Earl: I almost always laugh when I read that some secularist or atheist presumes to present any interpretation of Christian history and the Holy Bible.

So, you said, “This was a time in which God punished everyone in a village for the actions of a single witch. And when the holy men would do God’s work by burning the women of an entire village at the stake to ensure that no witches would survive.”

Please provide credible evidence that supports your assertion, or find the courage and humility to withdraw the statement.

“That is the origin of what believers believe today.”

Please outline your exegesis, with credible references, including to the Holy Bible. And if you can’t, then please find the courage and humility to withdraw your statement.

Exactly.

Life is too short to be so arrogant and narrow-minded that you devalue anyone of faith.

Keep quoting scripture, ECS. Don’t forget the stonings. Don’t forget burning all the witches. Don’t forget tearing apart little children by some type of bear. Don’t forget the massacres. Don’t forget rape victims being forced to marry their rapists. I could go on all day. Keep quoting the good book, brother.

Figures. This is my common experience with atheists. They just call people stupid and dumb. How pitiful.

I think the New World Order is behind it too. Better let Alex Jones and Glenn Beck know!

Which rights have been “trampled upon”?

Didn’t Jesus teach a message of tolorance and love for all. How very Christian of you.

I don’t think someone is born an atheist. It’s a choice you make to definitely believe in evolution or whatever else there is by being anti-God.

Spread a little hopelessness around.

This is all timed by the Marxist in the White House Bro. If you haven’t realized how Obama coordinates all this stuff with the help of the MSM, then you really shouldn’t vote.

@Earl Eakin

I never posted anything about Zeus. betrand said that critical thinking demands that we do not make blind assumptions, Are you an atheist given to making blind assumptions?

@betrand, I’m fully aware that atheists are more than willing to admit they do not understand the origins of the universe. However, I’ve communicated with plenty atheists who have arrogantly proclaimed there is no god. So, your leap to suggest I made a blind assumption is without any facts to substantiate that leap.

And your query if I’m referring to a church is odd. I commented on your tooth fairy scenario by mentioning parents, not churches. Odd, odd indeed. :-/

To Charles: Is it necessary when you communicate to insult people who believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and the Son Christ Jesus, by calling them “[B]ible thumpers” or “ultra right wing [B]ible thumpers” or lumping the objects of your derision with unnamed “other whack jobs”?

I know: It stems from your hatred for Jehovah and Christ Jesus’ followers and His namesake Christianity. It stems from you repulsion with anything absolute. It stems from you fear. It likely also stems from ignorance. Maybe several other things?

By the way, given your insinuated sophistication and/or superior knowledge, you should know that regardless of what the Republican/conservative process is now, the entire Republican establishment, including the conservative punditocracy, seems to desire only Mitt Romney. But, then, so does Obama and the Democrat Party.
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For sure, you cannot grasp, for instance, why the Lord God would call His followers to gather to worship Him on Sabbath or Sundays. As the Apostle Paul (nee Saul of Tarsus) said in his first letter to the church in Corinth: “But the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.”

Oh, yes: Calling God “stupid” for something about which you have no understanding or discernment is really ignorant and stupid. That’s my opinion.

And given your self-righteous response, no, I wouldn’t expect that you would find anything in faith or religion that meets your standard of “could not meet the light of day.”

That’s why this is all political. The timing with Obama’s attack on religion makes this more of the same: dividing the American people.

Dee – I wasn’t the one who suggested that the Constitution clearly states that our rights derived from God. Where? You tell me, Dee? Where does it state that in the United States Consitution?? And then he states that atheists are on “dangerous ground” because if we say there is no God, then we, as atheists, don’t really have any rights. It’s as if the 1st Amendment does not exist. Yes, Dee, that is blindingly stupid.

God does not believe in Atheists.

We believe in reality and science. Try it sometime, you might just learn something.

Did a “Godless” rally there about 10 years ago. Don’t know whether I can afford to do it again.

Liberals and Progressives can’t believe in God because they think their the smartest beings in the Universe.

What is a secular community? In any group, there are a wide range of thoughts. I am what many would consider an atheist, but I can’t stand most atheists. They are nasty, mean, and arrogant. Maybe the reason atheists are hated is because so many of them are rude and arrogant instead of respecting others differing beliefs.

Did anybody notice that the picture of similar rally did not identify what the rally was for?

I won’t be there. I will be with my family and friends in joyful celebration of my faith that weekend.

It is purely political. It’s expressed purpose to to address politics in the country. It’s just not necessarily Dem vs Republican political, but there is a definite bias on that basis.

Pretty funny the picture CBS shows is of the Glenn Beck Rally

David Silverman, chair for the Reason Rally Coalition, said in the story that, when compared to several faiths/religions, “is the most hated.”

Finally, an acknowledgement that atheism is a religion–or, perhaps, the house religion of liberalism.

Even so, I would like to see the data from which he concluded what he did.

My apologies: I omitted atheism, which should have immediately preceeded the quoted phrase in the first paragraph.

There are a lot of weird churches, but that doesn’t keep me from having a relationship with God. It’s not a good enough excuse. It’s like saying you had a bad experience with money so you ignore it now.

The issue that atheists have with the religious, is that the Constitution does not guarantee that they will not be exposed to religious beliefs. The religious typically live their religious beliefs, incorporating them into every day life to one extent or another. That right IS guaranteed in the Constitution.

Wouldn’t that mean your thinking is unnatural?

Choosing to live without responsibilities is always liberating.

> The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Then:
Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
Then:
And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Amen

I sense a talking point among all the atheist comments. Just say you’re an atheist and a conservative/republican and that will really confuse the real conservatives/Christians.

God doesn’t believe in athiests.

This is more of an anti-Chrisstian rally, than anything else. They are just cloaking it in ‘correct’ language, typical of the left in everything they do. Now why do I get the feeling that the occu taards have something to do with this?

Atheists are often disliked because they try to push their view down everyone else’s throat and essentially call anyone who does believe in religion a knuckledragger. Ultimately, the whole movement is based on a negative idea – ie: we don’t believe what others do. And 50 million people? Really? I know many people who call themselves atheists but who ultimately are really agnostic – they believe in something spiritual, just not in an organized religious way. Big difference…

You and three other kooks.

Take you (atheists) seriously? When you stop be demeaning mean spirited towards people of faith, then perhaps. Until then, no thank you. The irony is you “evangelize” your particular ‘faith’. And yes, this rally is purely political.

Threw the baby out with the bathwater. One baggage-laden church does not invalidate God.

Excellent description.

The nature of man

I guarantee you that this atheist march will get more press coverage than the march on Washington by the anti-abortion people that took place a few weeks back. The anti-abortion march received NO coverage in the media. The lack of press coverage is another example of how the media controls the message and subverts free speech and CBS is a big part of this manipulation.

The laws of physics have never explained the beginning… the creation of something from nothing.

Atheism-The religion of trying to prove another religion is wrong which is impossible! If you believe in God and there really isn’t a God when you die you won’t know any difference but will have hopefully led a good and just life. If you don’t believe in God and you die you burn in hell for eternity. That’s a no brainer. I choose to believe in God almighty and feel sorry for these people.

Nobody cares if you don’t believe in God. Do you think if you vote for a Christian he’s going to make it a law that you have to go to church on Sunday? Make you pray? Go have fun until you realize you have no hope.

May the Heavenly Father bless and keep all of them..

Life is easy when there are no absolute values, and they can be created or altered as needed..

Only Gods love for man is permanent.

The systems based on atheism did far, far worse in a short period of time (first half of 20th century) – Stalin’s communism, Hitler’s Naziism, etc.

As long as people ‘cling to their Bibles and guns’, government cannot be the grantor of rights, and the people cannot be controlled by government. That is the true issue. It would be interesting to correlate the participation with pro-government, anti second amendment activists.

That’s the point I always make, that their religion is nothing, which by forcing religions of belief of something, to be removed, makes their views of nothing, the new established religion, forced on all of us, which violates the separation of church and state. I am being forced to abstain from faith, and practice their faith, of nothing.

Atheists are not the hated, they are the hatERS, trying to interfere with Christians minding their own business trying to exercise their freedom of religion.

And your smarmy, smug comment is the precise reason why others couldn’t give a sh=4 what you think.

Earl, you need to understand the word ‘symbolism’

That’s exactly what the statists and secularist want you to feel. You are in their Utopia. Good for you…..weak sheeple…

WRONG! Hitler had the backing of the Vatican, though in school kids were taught that Hitler was sent from GOD. That Hitler was Jesus incarnate, kind of.

The choice to rely on the saving grace of Jesus Christ and eternal life in His presence is just that…a choice, a choice we all are free to make. I choose to believe and have faith in my Heavenly Father. If you choose not to believe then that is your choice….a choice of eternal life or a choice of eternal death. You make your choice, the wages of sin is death. For God so loved the world He gave his only son, that whosoever believes shall not perish but have eternal life. I’ve made my choice, I choose LIFE!

God bless them!

Exactly, Dee.

You may have been saddled with man’s religion, but you have never been saddled with a relationship with God. It’s a mistake to think that the churches represent God. I am a born again believer but I quit church ten years ago, after more than twenty years in different churches. I wanted more of God and less of man’s religion, and I got it. Don’t give up!

Joe you are wildly missinformed. The leader of this rally is a republican and is on FOX news regularly. this has nothing to do with occupying anything, and has everything to do with being able to show that we are not just a small group of people who will not be ignored any longer. It is also to show that we are your friends and neighbors. we are not miscreants, we are not devil worshipers, we are people who have shed the binds of religion, we take responsibility for what we do with our lives and are held accountable. we dont just say it doesnt matter what i do because i get down on my knees at night and say im sorry so the man upstairs forgives me for what ive done.

Accurate comment!

While I don’t generally have a problem with atheists, I hate anti-Christians. Too many of them claim to be the former but feel quite compelled to behave like the latter.

Gotta admit, though, for a bunch who tend to denigrate the intelligence of Christians, I find it funny that they don’t see themselves as having taken what some might see as the intellectual low-road. After all, how much brainpower does it take to not believe in something? Reconciling one’s beliefs with their life in the predominately secular world seems a lot more intellectually challenging to me.

Right!

What is offensive is the File Photo. That is from Glenn Beck’s Restore America March which was heavily Christian.

Yet, the religious get stereotyped regularly. Just read the posts here.

Well it doesn’t really matter if it’s God’s work, or just purely evolution’s work. The point is we are gifted with better brains than our fellow primates (to date). Our founding fore fathers recognized this, and incorporated that understanding in the Constitution. They may have referred to God here and there,but by enlarge they were people of reason. Since the Greeks the exercise of reason has done more for the freedom of humankind than any religion. Free your mind, and your a.. will follow.

“Atheists maintain that arguments for the existence of God show insufficient reason to believe. Certain theists acknowledge that belief in the existence of God may not be amenable to demonstration or refutation, but rests on faith alone. Other religions, such as some sects of Buddhism, do not concern themselves with the question of the existence or non-existence of God at all. Psychological and sociological explanations for believing in the existence of God may point to a shared neurological and cultural framework for belief based on cognitive processes in the brain. ”
What ever the heck this means.

Fortunately, the 1st amendment guarantees the right of others to entirely disagree your description.

They are ralling 8 days too early. They should rally on April 1, their national holiday.

Of course you feel free; nihilism is liberating unto death.

Atheism is a religion. They hold rallies, they assemble in buildings church style so as to mimic religous institutions of helping each other. The only place where they are largely absent is helping the world’s impoverished, and atheists like various religions know they are right. The end of any religion like atheism and Islam will go with great turmoil. Science and religion are converging and no atheist will be able to stop it. Einstein was a theist, not an atheist – he knew.

Yes, you can be a conservative and an atheist (and I’ve got the .45 to prove it).
One of the good things about being an atheist is NOT having to go to meetings. But I support the rally because it might get a few more people to actually see that more and more everyday people are shaking off the chains of superstition and ignorance and doing just fine, thank you. I became an atheist at age 14 after reading the Bible, cover to cover, and deciding that the God portrayed within it was a sadistic monster. How many “good Christians” out there have read the whole thing, not just the happy bits you are spoon fed on Sundays? You can be loving, law abiding and productive without the dubious “guidance” of a set of rules cobbled together over a thousand years ago.

I find atheism liberating also. When you realize there is no God (god?) no Ultimate Judgment, and that we are simply accidents of Darwisnism – just another predator species, it totally liberates you. You realize there is no RIGHT or WRONG – just compacts constraining behavior entered into by the weakest of our species to protect them against the stronger of our species. For those of us willing to fully embrace this insight, we realize its not us against a God (god?) who metes out Ultimate Justice, its simply us against these arbitrary constraints (called “laws”). Justice becomes just a common agreement of retribution between members of a species – again in a feeble attempt to constrain the behaviors of the strong, and that retribution is nothing more than a salve for weak minds who find it difficult to embrace this ultimate epiphany of atheistic belief – its not a worldly reflection of some moral system of a Supreme Being. Subsequently, if one of us who is strong decides to put a gun to your head and pull the trigger, its not RIGHT or WRONG – it just IS – it is what predator’s do – defend their territory or take over another’s territory by driving the adversary out or killing them. Since there is no GOD, we get away with whatever we can get away with without fear of any ultimate judgment. Isn’t a great world we live in?

People who feel the need to proclaim that that they DON”T believe something by demonstrating are the very definition of oxy-morons.

I’m sure the idea of not being held to account for actions committed in this world can be very liberating. I am the exact opposite of you. I was raised in a home that was not just critical of the idea of God, but was downright vitriolic to those that believed. I grew up in an environment that preached the “live in the now’,”if it feels good do it” atheist liberal mentality. I found a contentment and stability in my faith that physics and the sciences couldn’t fulfill or answer. In fact, it was my pursuit of physics that ultimately led me to my faith in God. The odds don’t support random chance when it comes to our existence in the universe.

I’d like to agree with you, but the darkness and delusion of evil is very strong.

You call it liberating? Many people have tried to pretend there is no God but they are only hurting themselves. The evidence is all around you. You look at a watch and think “there must be a designer”, but you look at a person and think there is none? Interestingly Dawkins believes there is a designer. He believes it is aliens from outer space which tells me he just hates God, its not that he doesnt believe in him.

Earl is blaming his parents and the church for his ‘baggage’? What baggage? Being scared of your peepee?

“Separation of Church and State”, is only a singular interpretation of the constitution, given that, there is a difference between separation and exclusion. There is a term for a minority enforcing a belief(or non-belief) system on a majority.

Lunacy. Hitler was not acting for God, with God or as God or in any Godly way.

Psalm 14:1 ” A FOOL says in his heart there is no God”

I am puzzled. All of these people are going to Washington to have a huge rally about….nothing?

What will they do next? Will they come to my Church to burn it down? Why are these people having a huge rally protesting my freedom to worship as I choose? I have not interfered with any of their constitutional rights. Finally, what is it that bothers them so much about the idea of a supreme being? If they have no belief or faith, why are they concerned about those who do?

Even though I am a devout Christian, if someone wants to be an Atheist, that is fine with me. Basically, I simply want to practice my Christian beliefs without interference from Atheists; however, it seems that contemporary Atheists want to interfer with my beliefs. If I don’t accept Atheism, that somehow makes me a hater. Just remember, That without God anything is possible.

HAVING WORKED IN THE PSYCHIATRY PROFESSION FOR SOME 40 YEARS I FIND IT MOST INTERESTING TO FIND MY CLIENTEL OF 2,289 INDIVIDUALS CONSISTS OF: 82% ATHEISTS, 2% SATANISTS, 12% AGNOSTICS, AND 4% CULT MEMBERS. THE FIRST TWO CATEGORIES OF MY CLIENTEL REPRESENT: 98% OF THE ALL: MURDERERS, RAPISTS, ARSONISTS, PEDOPHILES, TRANSGENDERED, GAYS, CREATING AN ASTOUNDING 102 MILLION DOLLARS IN DAMAGE TO THEMSELVES AND OTHERS THROUGH: ID THEFT, EXTORTION, BRIBERY, STD TRANSMITTANCE, PROPERTY DAMAGE, DRUG CAUSED DEATHS, AND SUICIDES! THESE PEOPLE ARE MARCHING FOR THE RIGHT TO ENSLAVE THE 99% THAT HAVE TO PAY FOR HIGHER TAXES FOR A LARGER POLICE FORCE, MORE PRISONS, MORE COUNSELORS, LARGER MEDICAL PROGRAMS, AND MORE HIGH TECH SURVEILLANCE TO TRACK THEIR IRRIESPONSIBLE STUPIDITY!! any questions?

If atheists don’t believe there is a God, then what are they so upset about? It isn’t really that they don’t believe, but that they refuse to bow. People call Christians hypocrites, but really those who say they don’t believe are hypocrites. Why not just be honest and say, “I believe but I refuse to give up my idol of self.”?

Funny thing. Even being an atheist requires faith. So by that fact atheism is a religion of sorts.

HAVING WORKED IN THE PSYCHIATRY PROFESSION FOR SOME 40 YEARS I FIND IT MOST INTERESTING TO FIND MY CLIENTEL OF 2,289 INDIVIDUALS CONSISTS OF: 82% ATHEISTS, 2% SATANISTS, 12% AGNOSTICS, AND 4% CULT MEMBERS. THE FIRST TWO CATEGORIES OF MY CLIENTEL REPRESENT: 98% OF THE ALL: MURDERERS, RAPISTS, ARSONISTS, PEDOPHILES, TRANSGENDERED, GAYS, CREATING AN ASTOUNDING 102 MILLION DOLLARS IN DAMAGE TO THEMSELVES AND OTHERS THROUGH: ID THEFT, EXTORTION, BRIBERY, STD TRANSMITTANCE, PROPERTY DAMAGE, DRUG CAUSED DEATHS, AND SUICIDES! THESE PEOPLE ARE MARCHING FOR THE RIGHT TO ENSLAVE THE 99% THAT HAVE TO PAY FOR HIGHER TAXES FOR A LARGER POLICE FORCE, MORE PRISONS, MORE COUNSELORS, LARGER MEDICAL PROGRAMS, AND MORE HIGH TECH SURVEILLANCE TO TRACK THEIR IRRIESPONSIBLE STUPIDITY!! any questions?

Well, I guess they need something to believe in.

Well I hope all these atheists are ready for the apocalypse this year. I wish they weren’t so militant in their beliefs they remind me of born again christians. Hopefully jesus comes back and kicks some ass on December 21st and he brings Mayans lol and those Mayans get amnesty and they can vote for president in next election and they vote for Mitt Romney because he is Mormon and Jesus came to America in Mormon religion to hang out with the Indians so it is all coming back around.
Sigh…. http://how-to-survive-the-apocalypse.blogspot.com

Earl,
Your arguments will not hold up when you stand before Jesus Christ on judgment day. And you will. “For it is appointed unto man once to die and after that the judgment.” (Hebrews 9:27)…You can rally the whole world behind your arguments, but you will answer to Christ one day. I hope you repent before that day.

Dude, did you learn history in public school or something? Half of the priests in Germany were put in concentration camps. Hitler had not the slightest shred of support from the Catholic Church, and they barely even tolerated Mussolini who didn’t have concentration camps.

As usual, CBS leads with a bogus photo to support its story, completely disingenuous but that’s to be expected of boys and girls who spent 4 years to write at an 8th grade level.

Anyway, may G*d bless the atheists with a lovely day.

Thousands? And this makes news? More than 300,000 marched in the Pro Life Rally just 3 weeks ago, and the media (except for EWTN) was silent.

There are no true atheists in the world. If they didn’t believe in anything, they wouldn’t be having a get together.
They really act like more of a cult than anything
Atheism has already been ruled a religion in a US Court of Law..
Hitler was a so called atheist that hated Christians as much as Jews.
Being that atheists have no belief in God and the rights blessed upon Americans in the Bill of Rights and Constitution are God given rights.
Atheists have no rights in America. Therefore, this atheist jamboree is an unlawful assembly and illegal. See how easy that was.
Try asking these bright individuals what Keynesian Economics is all about?
The phonies should be able to twist it the same as the Fascist oriented liberals do !

Nice picture of ANOTHER rally. What morons run CBS?

And this makes news? More than 300,000 marched in the Pro Life Rally just 3 weeks ago, and the media (except for EWTN) was silent.

Yeah Greenspan was an ardent fan of hers only problem is it doesn’t,t work, great theory though. Guess some rules and regulations work. Sounds so sophisticated and elite. Just didn,t work. Even Greenspan admitted he was wrong. Guess the time proven works. He LOVED Ayn. T oo bad she was wrong.

Cognitive Dissonance is the operative word here.

Why does our hope have to be false? Isn’t that just as negative?

How can there be 40 to 50 million atheists in the United States if 88% of Americans according to Gallup self-identify as Christians? Sorry, the numbers don’t jive.

He believes in no-God; And that’s what he’s fighting for..Isn’t that obvious to you?

I don’t have as much FAITH in the success of their rally as do the atheists.

I has always seemed to me that the God described to me in Sunday School, if He existed, would be self-evident, and impossible not to believe in. He should not be able to hide from us, but He is nowhere to be seen. If God exists as He is constantly described by believers, there should be no way to doubt it. But doubt is in the mind of all but the insane. God is nowhere to be seen, though millions call out to Him every minute. Believers have to constantly reassure themselves that God is there, and often become emotionally vulnerable if anyone voices doubt, or disbelief. Why should that be, if God is self-evidently real? The truth is that it is self-evident that God is just an act of self-delusion on the part of believers. Once you realize that the doubt is where the truth resides, it becomes impossible to believe anymore.

What a bunch of stupid people. What if we did not make ourselves like they think
and they have to meet who created them? I think the creator would to say the least not be happy with them. So what they have is a no win and a less win
situation for them. No gain at all with what they are doing.
Taking a risk with no reward that is insane.

Because its easier than improving their own lives, minding their own business and accepting that other people may think differently then them.

Thy Obamessiah will have no other deity before him.

. Christ said The kingdom of God is WITHIN you. You are looking Out there?

From whence came matter?

Your kidding right?

Atheist preach natural law, which is actually the worship of Baal

98% of journalists have never been to Mass. Hell will be full of journalists.

A good read is “I Don’t Believe In Atheists” by Chris Hedges:
http://www.amazon.com/I-Dont-Believe-Atheists-ebook/dp/B00161E3CS

“Hedges is clear from the outset: there is nothing inherently moral about being either a believer or a nonbeliever. He goes a step further by accusing atheists of being as intolerant, chauvinistic, bigoted, anti-intellectual, and self-righteous as their archrivals, religious fundamentalists; in other words, as being secular versions of the religious Right. Like best-selling atheists Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins, and Daniel Dennett, Hedges is disgusted with the Christian Right, going so far as to call it the most frightening mass movement in American history. Even more disturbing for Hedges, however, is the notion, which many atheists and liberal churchgoers share, that as a species humanity can progress morally. There is nothing in human nature or human history to support the idea, Hedges maintains, nor that the flaws of human nature will ever be overcome. He discusses the dark sides of the Enlightenment, Darwinism, consumer culture, the justifications for America’s wars (including in Vietnam and now Iraq), and obsession with celebrity, among other equally hot topics. His purpose in this small, thought-provoking book is, he says, to help Americans, in particular, accept the limitations of being human and, ultimately, face reality.”

He believes in no-God; And that’s what he’s fighting for..Isn’t that obvious to you?
If you believe in an existence of a God and another dude believes in the non-existence of a God , what is your worry? Moreover believing something doesn’t doesn’t automatically qualifies it as a fact. Belief is just belief.: It a means not an end.

There is no God, so stop worrying.

I hope they pray for nice weather.

You mean the Jehovah wittness?lol

Just wondering………if a million athesits rallying at the National Mall suddenly knew a meteor was heading their way ENSURING their certain deaths, HOW MANY ATHESTISTS would still be there????? JUST WONDERING.

Not exactly. You’re viewing Atheism as a faith, where it is an absence on faith. If religions were TV channels, Atheism would be like turning the TV off. It is not a matter of belief.

atheists are right. Here’s is the proof:
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tp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPOfurmrjxo

Nothing like making a public display of your ignorance, hope the hotdog stands do a lot of business at least. LOL

Well you see, there’s this thing called the US Constitution…

Love

The age of Reason?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPOfurmrjxo

Hey this’s one good of an atheists

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Ha, true. They’ll have an empty altar and cut out cardboard figures of Christopher Hitchens to – ummmm, – “observe” with “due reverence.”

But NO PRAYING DAMMIT! ;P

Amazing comment.

Insightful. Well done.

Name one thing that has ever been permanent.

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Death. And you won’t escape it.

I have a hard tiime beleive that 50Million people living int he US do not believe in God. That would be about 1 in 6. San Fransico does not have that many people.

I feel sorry for them because they have no hope and are doomed because of their lack of faith.They are going to reap the whirl wind soon .This world system is about over.

Will it be a massive rally? Or will the MFM declare it to be so without offering proof?

It must be hard to be a journalist this days. We, the people, don’t trust journalist as we used to.

There is no such thing as an atheist, God denier is a better description, truth denier even more accurate.You truth deniers should be perfectly happy if at the end of physical life you discover that for all eternity you get what you so fervently seek here on earth, eternity without God. If you really desire that freeing sense you espouse I suggest you find the darkest place you can and start screaming over and over again there is no God. As for those who think they win the “proof” argument because reason is on their side think again. Faith completes reason and is demanded concerning Jesus.You have the absolute right to choose God or deny Him, choose wisely.

Science without religion is lame
Religion without science is blind…………..Albert Einstein

Cruise control for cool!

“…we want to put many faces to [atheism], so people will understand us better and tolerate us more.”

Tolerance? YOU want tolerance when every other word out of your mouths ridicules religion and demands that it stay out of public square. You want tolerance, then tolerate the religious. They don’t demand you adopt religion but you demand that they not mention religion in public.

I don’t know why that guy in the article thinks they’re hated…. I can’t think of anyone who hates Atheists. They’re sort of a non-issue.

You know the most visible problem with atheism, besides the obvious can’t see the forest for the trees?

These atheists speak of their “evolving”. But evolving into what? Nothingness? It’s a bankrupt philosophy that has led throughout history to tyranny. Look at the 20th century? Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, KIm Jong Il. How about Karl Marx? The record couldn’t be more clear the failure of atheism and what follows.

What has atheism inspired? What beauty, what music, what art, what good works? What nation of atheists can claim any lasting positive effect? Vietnam? North Korea? Communist China? Soviet Republic? All accompanied by futility and death – tyranny and despotism.

I suppose they find real logic and reason in believing they are glorified apes. Doesn’t seem to be much fulfilling to me.

Atheists believe that what you call “sin” exists because of nature and nurture, People act the way they do based on their surroundings and the environments that they grow up in.

Christians believe “sin” exists because a woman that was made out of a rib ate a piece of fruit because a talking snake told her to.

Which one sounds more reasonable? Religion is ludicrous and has no place in modern society. Wake up morons! Grown ups shouldn’t believe in magic and fairy tales

Hitler did pretty good with that one.

http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

Atheism is liberating but you must not force your ideology on others even if it is liberating. Militant atheism is just as oppressive as militant religiosity.

Changed my thinking forever.

http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

Well, God bless the atheists and their misguided ways. ‘Tis sad, really.

We have Freedom OF Religion, not FROM it. Sorry. Also, to invalidate the belief in Natural Rights means atheists seek to empower government to be able to take away rights.

For that reason, I would never vote for an atheist.

You are right. The number is about 6%, or about 6 in 100.

Exactly. According to polls, Atheists constitute a fraction of the populace. Not even a sizable minority.

If you are born only once, you die twice. If you are born twice, you only die once. God only gives knowledge to understand to those God chooses. At least ask God to give you the knowledge to understand, if you don’t want what he has to offer, at least you looked. If you truly put your ego aside, and for a moment, assume that there is a Creator, and open your mind to that idea, you will gain the knowledge to begin to understand that there is a God that loved you before he even created you. God wants you to enjoy an eternal life with him. A life without pain, sorrow, worry, or fear. Try it. If I am wrong, you have lost nothing. If I am right, you have gained eternity.

Oh lord,, I would get caught up, but then again the rapture is not here

No they are going there to promote their State sponsored Religion of No Religion.
The Joys of Being PC

Why would god care if people believe in him?
Is an omnipotent beings ego that fragile?

If he REALLY cared that people knew about him, he’d show up on television or something.

Isn’t it the whole ‘getting together and asserting yourself’ thing that atheists despise about religious folks in the first place? How religious people shove their beliefs down others throats? This is extremely ironic and frankly, unintelligent.

Let’s have a rally to promote, uh….. disbelief.

“What are we here for? — Nothing”

“What do we believe in? — Ourselves”

Classic.

If I’m wrong, I lived a relatively good life – no harm, no foul. If you’re wrong, I wouldn’t want to be you for eternity.

Jesus believes in you.

I’m praying he performs an undeniable miracle at your rally.

Glad you feel free – but it simply another religion. One of null, naught, nothingness, the void.

You have no moral code, no conscience, or restrictions – there is others here that have stated there simply is no right or wrong (only unthinking and undefinable grey) – I would not trust you any further than I can see you, and then only in direct line of sight … for you have no outside judgment, no unseen restrictions, no second judgment to prevent your malfeasance. What are your restrictions – your life experience, your code? Life is yours for taking, if unseen you can get away with anything, never mind you see ‘no’ personal codifiable restrictions. Man’s laws, which are based upon the very deity that you abhor or deny … you can break any law because you are an outlaw …. an anarchist.

These are the members of moral decay, members of the religion of zero. Remember there are several religions who have no deity, or God … only a philosophy …in which there is no God … how does it feel to reject a God of religion, only to have many which equals a void? Why should the religion of naught tell another religion they can not … does not seem equal and just to me…

It’s not that atheists don’t believe in a god. It’s just that the god they worship is themselves.

Grown ups shouldn’t believe in magic and fairy tales

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Yeah, like all those fools who called our rights “endowed by our Creator.” Good point, Rufus. You’ve convinced me I should have been listening to you when I was foolishly following those old, white guys who penned the Declaration of Independence.

I cede your point.

Dear Atheists, unfortunately your choice of non-belief in GOD doesn’t mean you believe in nothing. In reality, you are worshipers of satan. You don’t practice devil worship like sacrificing a pig or drinking blood, but to not believe in GOD means you are in the corner of satan. Let me help you out. GOD IS REAL. You can deny it. You can chastise me for making that profound statement, but the REALITY is, HE does exist. I am not a Bible Thumpimg person which would get in your face. I let you live your lives the way you wish. Yet, the REALITY is, is that this life is a short, pit stop to something you (I) can not comprehend. I am humbled and grateful that HE has allowed me to realize the truth. It is enlightening and makes life much easier to deal with.

youtube “I went to hell”. Or, for a lighter take, try “I went to heaven”.

you are correct. it is the carrying card of evil progressives. they say it is to give them rights, but it is really to eliminate all other viewpoints.

@dog He showed up in person. What? You want encores???

What shall we say then? There is no injustice with God, is there? May it never be! 15 For He says to Moses, “I WILL HAVE MERCY ON WHOM I HAVE MERCY, AND I WILL HAVE COMPASSION ON WHOM I HAVE COMPASSION.” 16 So then it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “FOR THIS VERY PURPOSE I RAISED YOU UP, TO DEMONSTRATE MY POWER IN YOU, AND THAT MY NAME MIGHT BE PROCLAIMED [k]THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE EARTH.” 18 So then He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires.

19 You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who resists His will?” 20 On the contrary, who are you, O man, who answers back to God? The thing molded will not say to the molder, “Why did you make me like this,” will it? 21 Or does not the potter have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel [l]for honorable use and another [m]for common use? 22 [n]What if God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction? 23 And He did so to make known the riches of His glory upon vessels of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory, 24 even us, whom He also called, not from among Jews only, but also from among Gentiles.

blah blah blah, go to hell – LoL!!!!!!

Jesus H:

You are dead wrong Atheists, members of faith of null believe there is ‘none,’ that is their faith.’ They can not prove it either way … they believe in that philosophy, Hallelujah! I’m free, free at last! There is nothing there except blind stinking random chaos… what will be will be …

only an idiot or one who see no order in this process would believe that.

Without God, there would be no atheists.

Here are FACTS that can NOT be denied. Atheism is illogical since there is no reason to live if you do not believe this life is a pit stop. For if you believe there is nothing after this life, then there is no reason to live. Therefore, you should commit suicide because there is no purpose to your being. You are just wasting resources. Second, you should become sterile. You should not breed because there is no use continuing the human species if there is no reason to live. THird, the greatest proclaiimed atheists were: Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Idi Amin, Tito and many more peaceful, humanists. They killed more people during the 20th century than the prior 20 centuries of so called “religious” murders combined. Fourth, iit is logical to conclude that atheism is evil, immoral and a mental disorder. The treatment is self imposed suicide since there is no rationale for an atheist to continue living.

Do you really want to believe that there’s no God and have to face the omnipotent God creator of everything? I’m a Christian but the thought of me standing there and answering how I lived my life is very frightening. I’d rather believe that God exists and obey him to know that there’s a better life than this one then live my life knowing there’s no hope and the thought that I could go to hell.

I’s good to know that a whole bunch a people who share a belief in Non(belief)’ will get together a petion the Govt. to do a Non(Something Big) in a Non (non-viloent way) with their non (firends) who they non(love) and could 100% Non(count on) when the going gets tough. Just like soldiers in a Fox Hole. Soon they will spread their Non(belief) by Non(faith) by knocking on peoples door to share Nothing.

There is only ONE GOD his name is Jesus if you reject him you will burn forever in HELL. Forever

What orifice did he pull that 40-50 million atheists in the US number out of? I highly doubt more than 3% of the population is atheist at best. If only your ilk would wake up and realize that you are part of God (as is everything in this physical universe) and that you don’t have to subscribe to ANY religion, you would find a new peace
that would make your cold material based existence pale in comparison.

To dog: The One who is Almighty and All Powerful has no ego problem. He created everything that is. And, He will put an end to all of it, just as it is written. Don’t think that He doesn’t show up. He does, as he did with Paul, a murderer of Christians. He struck Paul blind for a time and then Paul underwent a serious attitude adjustment. I pray our LORD will show up to introduce Himself to you, too. Read Ezekiel 38-39, which predicts a regional war in which a number of nations attack Israel. This is one instance in which the LORD promises He will show up. Look out for that! It may seem to you that this event is getting ready to happen in this day if you follow the world news. And dog, please, especially note Ezekiel 38:23. The Most Exalted One does all of this why? So that many will KNOW that He is Lord over his own creation, even you, dear dog. Get on board. Come join us in that next dimension which is an unbelievably beautiful place. God’s peace be upon you, dear brother or sister.

Guess you never sold your soul to the Devil, in a moment of intoxicated confusion, and awoken the next morning in terror realizing what you had done… and then cried out to God for mercy, and then feel his calming presence (Holy Spirit)…

So I don’t expect you to know that Christ saves….

But when you see one of your family or friends with a newborn baby, or other ittle children, don’t you see something pricelessly valuable?

“There are more atheists in the country right now than Jews, Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists combined and doubled – that’s a lot of people, and we are the most hated ”
Siverman/ atheists = DELUSIONAL.

Try praying and see if you still are on non-believer. Jesus Christ will not be mocked. His Father is insulted by your arrogance and hardened hearts. I know for a fact He exists, and all it takes is humility and a readiness to become a follower of Christ. Atheisim is people thinking of only themselves because you put youself above all things including your creator of whom you have yet to discover.

you can either be conquered by reason or by faith,the two are not reconcilable, it’s either truth or delusion, , the evidence for theories of existence must be validated with logical objectivity, maybe the christian god does exist? more material evidence required for me personally, I’ll put forth a theory, all that ever was in the universe was a singular body and consciousness , this left a void for multiplicity ,so voids tend to be filled eventually, the big bang happened, this was likely the only decision that “god” ever made , the rest is all chance, that’s why the universe is so large, because it has to be to satisfy the statistical probability that life will happen spontaneously, so the process began, every thing is “god”,there is no judgement, we are in summary court in perpetual session, we simply do what is in our nature to do and only think we make choices, I think if you rewound your life like a spring and let it go, it would play out exactly like it did the first time, it really could have gone only one way, when we die we die till the universe dies and then we may return to the singularity again , then we do it all over again, this may be the fist go around or it could be the billionth , peace and love friends.

I wouldn’t want to be close to the place when the lightning strikes start.

Only thing a Atheist is He or She hates God.So its really a rally of God haters.We Born again believers will be there with our signs and banners
Psalms 20:5 We will rejoice in thy salvation, and in the name of our God we will set up our banners: the LORD fulfil all thy petitions.

I disagree that Non-theists are the most hated people in America. However, when men like Harris and Dawkins suggest that belief in God is a mental illness and that raising children to believe in God is a form of child abuse and perhaps the children of Christians should be taken away from them – that surprisingly doesn’t make them seem reasonable to many people. Some would even fear such people ever holding any real power. When Christians were the majority for the first 200+ years of American history we had freedom of thought, speech, and religion – if this ilk gains a majority I seriously doubt they would maintain the freedoms we have long enjoyed.

I wounder what rally the photo used in this story is? Looks like the March for Life rally to me. How interesting. I’ll bet there are less than 1000 people at the “we believe everything came from nothing” rally.

All this atheist rally is is a bunch of God haters trying to make each other feel better about going to hell and burn forever…forever is a long time to be wrong especially in hell when they realize I am here forever and no way out

Conversion Prayer: From the Diary of Saint Faustina 186-187

Today Jesus said to me, I desire that you know more profoundly the love that burns in My Heart for souls, and you will understand this when you meditate upon My Passion. Call upon My mercy on behalf of sinners; I desire their salvation. When you say this prayer, with a contrite heart and with faith on behalf of some sinner, I will give him the grace of conversion. This is the prayer:

“O Blood and Water, which gushed forth from the Heart of Jesus as a fount of Mercy for us, I trust in you”.

church for the churchless?

Yeah, so embedded. That’s why the Catholic church is preaching right now against the latest Obamacare fiasco.

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.” –The First Amendment to the Constitution of The United States of America.

What part of “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion” (constraint against congress from meddling with religion) “or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech,” (including religious speech) “or of the press; (including religious press) “or of the right of the people (including religious people) to peaceably assemble,” doesn’t the anti-religious bigots get?

It is a good thing that the anti-Christian bigots and anti-Semites will all gather together to finally show America who they are and to whom their allegiance lies.

The extreme left-wing (formerly known as the democrat party) in America will come out of the shadows and show us who’s books not to buy, who’s products not to buy, who’s movies not to see, who’s crooked and self-serving charities not to support and whom to pity for their apostasy.

Can you imagine how the “freedom from religion” that the neo-fascist “atheists” propose will be carried out? The anti-god Marxist “intellectuals” Moa Tse Tung, Pol Pot, Hitler, Stalin, Kin Jung Il, Castro and Che Guevara already carried out John Lennon’s “Imagine no religion” and 200 Million human beings were starved to death, were tortured and/or murdered when power was entrusted to those who do not believe in a power greater than the state. 200 Million in the 20th Century alone.

The only thing that will protect us from greater genocide at the hands of merciless atheists is education beginning with the blue print of human freedom the Holy Bible. The only problem is that the neo-Marxist censors have already banned and burned the Bible.

How much would you like to bet that you will not hear a single soldier of Satan denounce the Jews nor Muslims by name due to the special status they hold as minorities? You will not have to listen closely though to hear the god haters name the god they hate and that is Jesus, the only “prophet” who claimed to be and is in fact the Very True God known as Emmanuel or “God With Us”. The narcissistic neo-liberals despise Jesus since his Gospel liberates minds from tyranny and prohibits its followers from bowing to dictators and despots.

It is remarkable that more than 2,000 years later the bloodthirsty mobs STILL have no king but Caesar.

Thank the arrogant and minute minority known as “atheists” for their coming out party. They will have awakened a sleeping giant who has been sleeping far too long.

“It is impossible to enslave, mentally or socially, a bible-reading people. The principles of the bible are the groundwork of human freedom.”
― Horace Greeley

Psalms 139:21 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?

Psalms 139:22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.

How is Christianity being forced down your throats? What are the aggressive advances made by the conservative right?

In what ways do you think Christians are more apathetic than anyone else on threatened liberties?

I’m asking because I’m truly curious.

I am not aware of any hate directed a atheists. Did I miss something?

I see atheists spouting insults when nobody asked them in the first place.

Would someone please cite me an instance of any violence toward atheists? Does anybody even give a rat what they think?

As a Born again believers in Jesus Christ we force nothing down your so called throats you willingly reject God..You are in some sort of sin and love it more than the Saviour.God says the fool has said in his heart there is no God..You have the liberty to or free will to reject God..We as Christians warn you of an impending hell you have the right to go there

Haha, brilliant!

All you so called theologians explain this to me…
The ‘J’ Didn’t Exist

One of the most obvious reasons that “Jesus” and “Jehovah” are incorrect is found in their common initial letter, J. Most comprehensive dictionaries and encyclopedias demonstrate that the letter J is of recent derivation. The Encyclopedia Americana contains the following on the J:

The form of J was unknown in any alphabet until the 14th century. Either symbol (J,I) used initially generally had the consonantal sound of Y as in year. Gradually, the two symbols (J,l) were differentiated, the J usually acquiring consonantal force and thus becoming regarded as a consonant, and the I becoming a vowel. It was not until 1630 that the differentiation became general in England. http://www.remnantofyhwh.com/Backup%20of%20No%20J%20in%20Hebrew.htm

Psalm 2

1 Why do the nations conspire
and the peoples plot in vain?
2 The kings of the earth rise up
and the rulers band together
against the LORD and against his anointed, saying,
3 “Let us break their chains
and throw off their shackles.”
4 The One enthroned in heaven laughs;
the Lord scoffs at them.

Psalm 14

1 The fool says in his heart,
“There is no God.”

@dog I thought your ilk’s big “proof” that there was no God was that bad stuff happens to good people, yet according to you, the fact that He helps people live their lives in a way that will make them happy is only because he wants people to admire him cuz he’s got a big ego! Well, gee, then why doesn’t he intervene and make it so there’s no bad stuff any more! That’d surely win over many more worshippers to inflate his ego even further! Sure, that’d damn us all to never actually learning anything, voiding much of the purpose of life (a fact that your ilk blind yourselves to in order to make that “bad stuff happens so there’s no God!” argument), but why would he care since he must be oh so selfish according to you?

There’s no winning with you people. And you claim to be the reasonable ones!

The age of Bigotry.

Good point besides the one on the top of their heads April fools day would be the perfect day

What’s the chance that BOTH OF THEM will show up?

God calls them fools should of had it in April 1 heres three great verese for the Atheist …
Psalms 36:1 The transgression of the wicked saith within my heart, that there is no fear of God before his eyes.
Psalms 50:22 Now consider this, ye that forget God, lest I tear you in pieces, and there be none to deliver.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

The ‘J’ Didn’t Exist

One of the most obvious reasons that “Jesus” and “Jehovah” are incorrect is found in their common initial letter, J. Most comprehensive dictionaries and encyclopedias demonstrate that the letter J is of recent derivation. The Encyclopedia Americana contains the following on the J:
Some theologian explain this to me..I have a copy of The Torah, the original 5 books of Moses..

The form of J was unknown in any alphabet until the 14th century. Either symbol (J,I) used initially generally had the consonantal sound of Y as in year. Gradually, the two symbols (J,l) were differentiated, the J usually acquiring consonantal force and thus becoming regarded as a consonant, and the I becoming a vowel. It was not until 1630 that the differentiation became general in England. http://www.remnantofyhwh.com/Backup%20of%20No%20J%20in%20Hebrew.htm

You people are impossible to reason with because you don’t seem to have a basic grasp on logical arguments. To make your ridiculous comparison work, you have to first characterize his post as “whining” (trollish to begin with, but for the sake of argument we’ll go on), assert that his “whining” is about how unfairly he is being treated and how nobody likes him (it isn’t, but again, we’ll go on), and then stipulate that people “whining” on forums are a “demographic” that marches and carries signs.

You can’t make a logical argument because you don’t have one.

As an atheist, I hate God as much as Christians hate unicorns. Get the analogy?
I have no problem with God, it’s his fan club I can’t stand.

And to the Christians saying we’re comforting each other from burning in hell forever…we’re about as scared of that as the bogeyman. If your God is so concerned about me kissing his ass that he’ll condemn me to an eternity of suffering despite a lifetime of good works, he’s got a serious problem with his ego.

“we are your friends and neighbors. we are not miscreants, we are not devil worshipers, we are people who have shed the binds of religion”
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“we are your friends and neighbors. we are not miscreants, we are not devil worshipers, we are BIGOTS… so, scratch that bit about ‘friends’ if you’re religious”

Atheist says to Christian I believe there is no God… Christian looks at him and smiles shakes his head in unbelief..Atheist says I swear to god I am telling you the truth

There is a difference between atheism and arreligion. Discarding a church is liberating but it is not the same as discarding God.

Christians are right heres the proof…Bible…God talking to man you are not listening

Atheism is most certainly a faith and it has a creation story, evolution. The fact is the story does not hold up to scientific inquiry on several levels, levels of challenge the vast majority of them couldn’t even begin to define much less argue intelligently against. The reality is that this creation mythology best proposed by a 19th century man who knew absolutely nothing of microbiology as it is known today. Darwin would argue his theory is fatally flawed if he were alive now. Read him and you’ll possibly understand he provided the matches which could burn down his theory at some point beyond his time. That time has come but the priesthood of this new faith is very strong and closed minded in their censorship of critiques opposing Darwin..

At any rate, the so called scientific minds of most of these atheists are so shallow on the subject of the irreconcilable challenges, or science in general, that they have no comprehension of how similar they are in their blind faith as the priesthood was that condemned Copernicus. Crick, himself, dismissed Darwinian theory along with religious creation belief. The vast majority of atheists don’t know of him or Watson, nor could they identify the four basic proteins of DNA if their life depended upon it. To be ignorant of the basics and simultaneously feel all superior scientific-like should be a modern day dictionary definition for stupid, or perhaps “super-superior stupid”.

Here’s the point.
The earliest settlers were first the Separatists that landed at Plymouth colony. They went to the New World as religious outcasts. They first tried a form of Communism and when they nearly starved they began to install private property and rights of ownership and production, Supply side economics. This enabled the colony to thrive and as a result it attracted more colonists.
The next wave of Colonists were the Puritans of the Massachusetts Bay Colony. The Puritans built on the example set by the Separatists and they also had mandatory education for the children of the colony – which was not the case for children in England. The point of education was so that the children were literate to be able to read the Bible.
Between the free enterprise model and the well educated population, naturally the colonies thrived even more. In barely a 100 years, British America was the envy of all of Europe. The colonists were two inches taller than Europeans on average because their diet was better.
This was the mindset that led to the additional colonies and which was the spirit that the colonies and the Founding of this country were based on.

What we see is the erosion of the bedrock of the character that led this country to its greatness and taking that away will led to the destruction of the greatest nation in history when there is no reason for it.

nothing + chance = everything, I don’t have enough faith to be an atheist!

I wonder where Silverman comes up with those numbers. 50 million atheists in the United States? That’s laughable. Polling has consistently put the percentage at around 3 percent and that’s been remarkably stable over time. That would be around 10 million.
So that’s 10 million people who believe life started when lightning struck a mud puddle or some such other nonsense. They trade a belief in a Deity for a belief in the power of randomness to create all the beauty and order we see around us. Crazy.

There is no way in hell (real or imagined) that there are 40 million atheists in the U.S. 4 million, maybe. Seriously, that’s worse than the 1 in 10 people are gay myth (probably more like 1 in 50).

@Tom, that was hardly restricted to the Bible. In those days, (actually really up to about 100-150 years ago) in ALL cultures, not just the the Hebrew culture, a man’s wife and children were considered his property. No different than a sheep. So needless to say, if a man would discover that his wife was not a virgin then it would be tantamount to being defrauded by a merchant and sold defective property.

My hope is in Jesus Christ. What does an atheist put his/her hope in? I really would like to know their basis and source for hope in this crazy world.

God-less America! Land of the free (thinkers)!

accusing me of intolerance for a comment that has nothing to do with tolerance or intolerance shows that you are the one being intolerant of Christianity……just more post-modern PC stupidity

Because a lightening storm…proves god exists? Really? is your god zeus god of thunder? or maybe thor? Lightning is a natural phenomenon on this planet, last time I checked. Science wins.

What you want to believe is your business, the problem is that atheism wants to restrain Christians from their constitutional rights of freedom of speech and freedom of worship. You only have less than 100 years on the earth, if you’re healthy and lucky, then you will find out the truth that there is a creator and then you will say , “it was true and i chose to reject the creator”. I would rather be on the side of belief that there is a God who will be the judge of all, then risk the eternal consequence of rejecting. The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom! The fool has said in his heart, there is no God!!!!

Tell that to Adam and Eve at judgement day after you die

Atheism is a religion like abstinence is a sex position.

Atheists will quickly be sucked into the growing new age occult global reilgion esp. after a major UFO satanic event….they’ve been prepped to do so by reading and watching religious science fiction.

ummmmm…you’re dumb. I take a winter and spring break. Contrary to your belief, we atheists enjoy time off of our jobs. Did you ever wonder why xmas and easter fall on or around winter and spring solstice? The original pagan holidays?

you need to turn caps lock off, gramps.

I say fly over and drop a giant water balloon followed up shouting out Baptized at all of them..

I was a astrologer for 30 years and into all the new Age mumbo jumbo, until 2008…Me and my atheist husband are Christians now, because we experienced demonic attacks and witnessed them obey the name of Jesus Christ. Now I am a avid reader and student of the bible….The bible is the most supernatural book I ever read….took me awhile to understand it. I am happy to be a Christian. Dont know if you are a new ager or a evolutionist…either way its all bunk…Ill give someone a billion years to mate rabbits and when it turns into a dog, or a cat, or a monkey I’ll eat my words…God Bless!

If there is a God then why did he make me an atheist?

Betrand, I wish you were there to talk to me back when I knew everything. The Josh McDowell school of strawman logic prevents one from even comprehending the point of the “tooth fairy” analogy, insulating Christians from quite a lot of logical arguments that demolish their belief system. I was the “go to guy” for a lot of people when I was an evangelical. Now I see all of the wasted years and cringe at the dollar figures my naivety imposed upon me and my family.

I once heard Linus Pauling state that “god made it.” (We were related by marriage.) It bothered me for years because I knew darn well he not only was an atheist and humanist, but held the church and its doctrines in great contempt. Only now, 18 years later, do I understand the fallacy of the Unseen Mover and realize the implications.

Of course the proper response for those I left behind will be the wagging of the head, the down-turned face and the declarations of Satan’s deception as they bow their heads in gossip….er, I mean prayer.

Not only do these people on here sound bitter & angry& lost-can you imagine what a wasted life they live!!! With idols like Bill Maher- why shouldn’t we grant them their rally-FOOLS they will make of themselves-I’m already picturing what they look like and laughing now.Maybe we shouldthelp them end their miserable lives. Spiked kool-aid for the rally?????????? Can’t imagine being a wife, husband, neighbor or friend?? of 1 of these people-what must they talk about? I’ll bet it’s delightful

These are only occupiers “in disguise” ploy by media matters/Obama/msm

AGREED- PAID disguised lefto OWP’ers

^5 MJ

No, stupid happens when one sets up a straw man of no substance to knock it down, hop up and down shouting at the air about the supernatural deceptions straw men are under and cry out loud how dominantly macho your daddy’s muscles are.

But it is highly amusing, so please, keep on.

Seems to be a subject of great controversy. Why? It is a bit like abortion or suicide. If you don’t like it don’t have it. So much effort to persuade others one way or another. There is more persuasion on the religious side; naturally they have a lot more franchises out there AND much more to loose. (financially). Their major problem is NOT that of to believe in god or not, but which one to believe in. History has known some 10,000 of them thus far.

Earl, with all due respect please read what you just wrote: “Atheism is liberating. I have never felt so free since I discarded … church.”

I truncated that because I am with you man, the church is NOT the Bible and it is certainly NOT Jesus Christ. There is nothing gained or lost from me telling you this other than just a friendly gesture like offering soemone driving directions, but please do not make the two synonymous if you are going to choose to reject Christ. Give the Bible a thorough reading, ask all the questions you can, ALL OF THEM AND HOLD NOTHING BACK, then HONESTLY seek out the answers you find from Christians who have asked the same things. Then choose man. If you choose Christ that is cool, if not, have fun at your rally, be safe, and try to respect us as I tell myself to respect Atheists. We’re all in this together!

Why does it bother atheists that people believe in God?

Tony, it says so quite plainly right there by, uh, by the…

hmmm. Dee’s copy of the Constitution must be “living” because those words sneaked right over into the Declaration of Independence.

The very reason why US was created as a republic. Did not suppose to have been a number game and the rule of the mob. Now it is.

If you try to read and understand the Apostle Paul’s letter to the Romans, you might find out that “God” is a sovereign God. That means he can do whatever he wants to his glorification. He [the Messiah] came to earth to redeem his chosen people and was crucified [sacrificed] for their redemption. After the resurrection he sent his apostles to preach this same redemption to the Jews and Gentiles [the rest of the worlds population.

We are given the option of accepting Jesus as our Lord and Savior or not. Those who accept have God’s Love those who don’t have a lifetime to accept or denounce God’s Glory. There is hope for these Atheist, however if they continue to denounce God and accept the lies of Lucifer, well you know the rest of the story. Eternal Damnation.

The god of athiests is mammon
If you deny the Lord Jesus Christ He will deny you your rightful place beside Him.
It doesn’t depend on what you believe Jesus Christ is the Truth!
I have His precious Holy Spirit dwelling inside me to prove it!
And I do pray a miracle of appocolyptic measure engulfs the whole lot of you!

Peace be unto the ones with wisdom to hear what the Spirit is saying..

Adam, I did just that and the complete honesty part made me come to the personally unwanted conclusion that my faith was cultural and my bible primarily hearsay. It was awful… but being blinded by the “light” was worse. Will you be able to be so honest as you ask of others, or are you simply saying it knowing there is safety back in the Sunday school and home fellowship groups where you can always here of someone who must somewhere know the answer to that particular problem of scripture?

Must be your god of mercy you are referring to.

My old man had it right: “Son, religion is a philosophy and the church is a institution. I have no use for either.”

“Eternal Damnation”?

You mean, like another four years of Comrade Obama?

Imagine if you a have group of anti-Christs [atheists] massed at a given site and an occurrence of biblical proportions engulfed this mass of non-believers and made them disappear in a blink of the eye.

Example, an earthquake or volcano eruption in the Azores or Canary Islands creates a Tsunami that comes up Chesapeake and Potomac.

God could make this scenario occur if he wants to.

You are wasting your time. to them the earth is flat,… like a pizza. The smarter ones would concede and counter with: you may be right but I still believe she’s round like a pizza.

Baldy,
Obama is small potatoes. I was going to say small peanuts.

Hehe Americans are so stupid. 80% believe in angels LOL.

I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 2

If atheists were right, then why would they waste their limited and unpredictable span of time on earth trying to convince others of the inherent hopelessness that is life according to atheists instead of simply “eating, drinking and being merry for tomorrow they die and cease to exist?”

If atheists didn’t believe in God, then why is He always on their minds?

Christians have about as much intelligences as a box of rocks it they truly believe that a MAN is the son of the “creator” of the Universe, or should I say, is the “creator” of the Universe.

Bad or Good ? Moral terms.

Our brains are wired with a religious part and a sexual part. Are they false because they are chemical and electrical responses ?

Dog

He is on TV often. He is our Supreme Leader.

Obama does that, according to Yuri Bezmenov.

Obama wants to tell us how to believe. Is he the new Christ

There are way too many sheep in here. To all those sheep I would like to say: Atheism is NOT a religion. There is no faith involved in it. What of people that grew up never even hearing of God? They are without religion, there’s no faith in that. Atheists do not have to disprove God, it falls upon the believers to prove it. The bible is NOT proof. If books were proof of truths, then Stephen King would have us all in one hell of a scary world. God is MAN-MADE… ALL the gods were. Or do you people believe in Zeus, Hades and Poseidon too?

To those that don’t think Atheists have morals, values, constraints and repercussions: WE DO… our consequences are here on earth while we’re alive; we do the right thing because it’s right, not for fear of hell or a reward in heaven.

I’m not asking anyone to become Atheist, I don’t care what you choose to believe in… just keep it away from me and out of the government. I don’t even mind teaching religions in school… as long as ALL the religions are taught. Not just Christianity, but also Islam, Hindu, Buddhism, etc and all of the ancient mythologies as well. I think our children should be informed and free to choose which religion (if any) they want to follow.

OldDog
If this Jesus guy came back tomorrow looking like Dennis Rodman and not the white man that Christanity protrays him as and has a Socialist political agender, who do you think will crucify him ? His followers, the most raciest, hatefull, ungodly people on earth, the Christian’s. The biggest crimes in written history have been comitted by his followers. Where ever the white man went with his cross and bible also came, raceisem, intolerence, rape, murder, theif, slavery and in some cases genocide..
Would this Jesus fellow, pratice or approve of Capitalism ?

Miguel Saavadera: You have no idea what atheism is then. We don’t “believe that there is no god”. We “don’t believe that there is a god”.

It is the absence of faith. Atheists don’t have faith, they simply accept those facts that can be proved.

Tellthetruth:

You can’t prove your religion or impress us by quoting from the bible. That is like trying to find out if a person is a liar by asking him if he is a liar. There is no independent verification for any religion.

Good Rudy, painting the Almighty into a Human box. In Genesis “God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, …. which refers to the Trinity, the Almighty [The Creator], the Savior Redeemer [Christ Jesus], and the Word [Holy Spirit].

BTW if you really want to blow your mind. God’s name/persona is “I AM” which means God’s existence is all at once; our past, our present, and our future.

Your premise is flawed. These folks do believe; they just don’t believe in what you do. Nothing wrong in that, right? That’s why they make chocolate and vanilla!

Just because one professes to be religious doesn’t mean much. In my experience many people are just plain old hippocrites…always judging others…looking for the worst in others (in some religions looking to kill others, should they believe differently). Some of the saddest, looniest, bigoted people on this planet go around spouting their beliefs about something they haven’t got a clue about. They have no way of knowing! How can one know the unknowable? All they know is what some other man as told them. Yet with that information in hand, they stroll through life believing that they are somehow above the rest. It’s a cruel joke! It’s a game I won’t play. Somebody forgive me!

Religion is a practice of ritual. If you want a proof of God’s existence. Stand still in one place, with your eyes and ears open, turn around and observe what you see and hear.

Now ask yourself is what you observe real or fantasy? If its a fantasy go see a doctor. If it it is real, ask your self how can that be and how does it stay together. Was it man made or a creation of an Almighty God.

So Mr Rational, how can you be sure that what you are experiencing is real or a hallucination? You could be the dream of a tick on the butt of a dieing dog. But ten again you just can’t believe that an Almighty God chose to make you in their image and create an environment that supports our existence.

Neither.

While you may fancy yourself so very enlightened, the fact is that you have no more proof of your convictions than do people of faith. Why do you and your ilk find it necessary to attack those people to bolster your own position? In this cruel, bitter world there are billions who take comfort in their faith. It’s too bad if that doesn’t work for you but it does for them.

For someone who condemns others for being judgmental, you seem to be doing a whole lot of judging yourself. And you call THEM hypocrites?!

Why is it necessary for you to demean people of faith to make your point? Name calling merely serves to diminish your credibility.

Hear, hear! You have hit the nail on the head! WHY is it important for these non-believers to address a non issue?

Gosh, with all those atheists saying that there is no god, I guess they are all saying that the prophet Muhammed did not receive his messages from allah. That would make Muhammed look real bad. Like maybe he did not tell the truth or something.
I wouldn’t want to be gathered with any of those atheists, anywhere.

Faith, by its very definition, requires no proof. It’s the atheists who are hung up on that notion.

That’s YOUR perspective. Doesn’t make it the the only one or the right one.

It is liberating to cast off the notion that we are answerable to God, because then we don’t have to worry about how we have lived, the Ten Commandments and all that. But that does not prove God does not exist. Two good books are recommended: “Dismantling Evolution” by Ralph O. Muncaster (a former atheist) and “I Don’t Have Enough Faith To Be An Athiest” by Frank Turek and Norman Geisler.

I thought the same thing reading the comments of OWS activists against Jews a few months back. Did that concern you too? Never heard anyone make threats against atheists.

Makes sense.
Religion: that set of rules by which I know I’m ok…and you’re not.
I’m left wondering why this rally isn’t scheduled on thier special day, April First.

“Not going there to complain”? Yeah, right. I’ll take getting talked at by a bible thumper any day over listening to these bitter whiners go on and on about how right they are.

Religion: that set of rules by which I know I’m ok…and you’re not. Their religion really is SOMETHING.
Why isn’t the rally scheduled for April First, their special day?

Atheism is not about “negative belief” it’s simply not believing in a god or other deity without evidence. All reasonable testable evidence points towards a godless universe.
This does not mean the atheists don’t have morals though. Atheists have the same morals as MOST religious people (respect fellow man) but atheistic morals are there to create a functioning society that is beneficial to all where as religious morals are imposed by the church by fear of hell and the devil. I have more faith in my fellow man than the church.

They have great faith that if they can gather enough like minded liars and fools together, they can will away the truth.

I’m betting they trash the place like the occupy protesters and those who showed up for Obama’s inauguration. But then they might surprise all of us and leave it clean like the Tea Party protesters but then I doubt it.

“We have evolved to rely on false positives to survive.” That makes no sense. You rely on things that at a minimum have real effects to survive. An atheist sociologist. The Abrahamic faiths (Christianity, Judaism, Islam) have survived for centuries. While this does not prove correctness, it does demonstrate that these faiths introduces SOMETHING that has real benefits to it’s practitioners, otherwise, reason holds, they would have died out by now. Secularism and Atheism are on the rise in the materially developed economies, but accompanying that increase is an increase in infertility. It could be that the developed people simply “tune” out the signals that are there in the real world. The same way, if you don’t exercise a muscle, that muscle gradually becomes weaker and eventually becomes useless to you.
I don’t doubt that there are some great Atheists – Penn Gillette is one of my favorite popular characters, who is phenomenally fair-minded and clearly intends to enlighten and not insult. But people to tend to focus on the most offensive people. And so I don’t mean this with ill intent, but I believe Atheists are people who have essentially “lost one of their senses” due to a lack of use. Many believers, too, lack this “sense” but believe the witness of others.
So explaining faith to an Atheist is like explaining sight to a blind person. The blind person can come to understand sight if he wants to and is willing to believe it exists, but if he decides to deny sight exists, you’re going to have a tough time convincing him of it.

The person that believes there is no God and feels liberated at the thought, is like the man who feels liberated while falling from a plane.

Either God is God,

or Man is God,

and Man does a really lousy job of it.

All the evidence does NOT point toward a godless universe at all. All questions are still very much unaswered and pointing toward the existence of a CREATOR. The good thing is to know God’s existence you just have to look in your heart. Atheists don’t get it and a lot of Christians don’t get it either . Once you find him you will see him everywhere. SEEK and you shall FIND

Think of the ignorance of this bunch. They are going there to protest…. what? That they don’t believe in something? “I protest that I don’t believe in something” !!
Really? Do I care? Do any of you care? And, if you do, why? There are far bigger things in this country to rally and scream about. This is just stupid.

Why does god hate amputees? If the superstitious christians believe in the power of prayer why don’t amputees get their limbs back? god is a construct of the fertile mind of man- noting else. Hey kids believe in Santa, until parents tell them he’s not real, Easter Bunny same thing, Tooth Fairy – Roger that. These childhood deities evaporate when parents stop pretending. Time to stop pretending, take responsibility for your life and quit thanking/blaming a non-existent deity for your success and troubles.

You can’t be a conservative “for the most part”. You either are, or you aren’t. Stop being a pretender.

The American Taliban,aka the religious right, is what is keeping Americans ignorant of the rest of the world. The world is laughing at you America.

Leave it to the devout atheists to put their faith and demagoguery on display. They want the rest of us to respect their beliefs as they refuse to do for us.

Jim I bet most of them are followers of the Church of Big Government though.

What a great idea…. put all of the atheists in one place at one time and ZAP!

God-willing…..

Atheists are moot. They are angry, intolerant people, who blame religions for the world’s problems. Whose basic argument is… “oh if only religious people were not in this world, then everything would be perfect.”

The wisest of the Greeks said that matter had always existed. Pretty lame theory for such an artistic and rational people. Atheists simply believe that everything is physical, dead is dead, there is no soul or greater authority than man. That’s fine with me. They can go their own way without anger or retaliation and I have no animosity towards them, if they have animosity they can sleep with it, I’m not bothering myself with their angst. I believe God is in my life. I don’t know what is in atheists’ lives in that space normally reserved for God. It doesn’t make them evil per se unless they seek to destroy what is precious to others. Let them find out for themselves. I have no animosity towards atheists on the basis of their belief. I believe in God, it’s not a classroom debate, you don’t, fine. Go in peace.

Whereas, Christianity is a relationship as compared to a ritualistic formality, e.g. Islam, Secular Humanism , or membership in the Democrat Party. Your reference to ignorance or being the brunt of ridicule by the rest of the world is merely a taste of what will occur after you and the rest take your last breath. Many of us believe that our time on earth is preface for our eternal life. We see the earth as a lower level of Heaven, another of The Almighty’s creation.

Read the first verse of Genesis: “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.” Notice the reference to heaven in the plural.

Might you be referring to the “Zoo Crew” [aka the Donkey-crats and RINOs]?

Please Christopher Hitchens, I pray thee come down and smite those believers! Oh… right. You cease to exist. Pity.

The destiny of all humans is to bow down before the Lord and proclaim the Glory of God. Whether we do it on earth or after our final breath. Take it or leave it.

The meaning of “Fear God” is that he accepts us in eternity. Take it or leave it.

The Christian’s duty is to spread the “Good News” that Jesus was crucified as a sacrifice for our sinful nature. If that’s Bible Thumping, so be it. I did my part. Once you hear the message it’s up to you to accept or reject the promise of redemption and everlasting life.

Ironic the photo that was used in the article I think was the Promise Keepers rally in 1997. One of if not the largest crowd ever on the mall, in all honesty over a million people. The crowds not only covered the mall, but the adjoing streets. After the media tried their best to paint this as an upcoming controversial event, they finally gave up after attending the gathering and realized that is was just a large church service. I am sure they thought they were in the middle of Jones Town; the only reference in the evening news was this was a larger crowd, quite a contrast from spending several minutes to bolster the size of the crowd of other rallies, when it is one of the media’s favorite causes.

Best response, Reggie.

“[W]e are the most hated … for no reason other than pure and simple religious bigotry, spurned by ignorance[.]”

No, you are the most hated because you insert yourselves where you don’t belong and cause trouble. If you don’t believe in anything, then logically there is nothing for you to say. Be invisible, because that is the nature of no belief system. Then, you won’t be “hated”.

Earl, actually your “freedom” is being free to explore your limitations, indulge your prejudices and remain captivated by a restricted rationalism that insists on living in a closed system. Further, you are going to assume that your reason is somehow set above your carnal desires. Atheists do not live by reason, which makes it so artifical and isolated, but by their murky desires and fears and pride that informs their reason. However principled they are, they have no justification for a universal principle. It is all subjective and individualistic in the end. That is why this rally will dwindle and come to nothing. Atheists, like any other false belief or disbelief system, intentionally suppress truth elements in this universe they do not want to hear, or what impinges upon their conscience to convict them of sin. They insist on their own dogma of “fairness” like others but cannot justify what standard or higher norm ought to justify that so it is applied to others equally as to themselves. Atheism is hope within a vacuum.

I am a Christian but I agree with you Lee. My friend is a non-believer and I’ve never met a person who is more honest or kind than her. I don’t try to shove my beliefs down her throat but I do talk about my faith with her. She listens but then I show her respect by listening to her as well. She actually let me take her son to Church because he told her he believed in God. She may not believe in Christ but she’s willing to let her son make up his own mind. How cool is that! And yes, I have faith in God but I also have faith in my fellow man.

I feel bad for atheist. What are they going to say after death and see God. It will be hard and say you don’t exist . God will tell them depart from me. The Bible is the truth. It will be too late when a atheist dies and see’s God.

Obviously, this rally is already creating a lot of discussion, which is good. You can dispute the numbers, but undoubtedly, the number of non-believers in this country is skyrocketing. People are realizing they don’t have to believe in myths to live a good life. Why are we rallying? The primary reason (at least for myself) is to make sure my voice is heard when it comes to policy decisions. Somewhere between 10-25 percent of this country now identifies as atheist, and yet we have only one openly atheist congress person. I am tired of hearing my country’s leaders praying to god about decisions…I want them to use compassion, empathy, logic, and reason…not faith in a god that doesn’t exist.

Why does this stupid page reload so that one has to try to find one’s place — over and over and over???

Earl, as to your evangelical beliefs, a belief is just that until it becomes embraced and internalized to bring transformation. There are evangelicals all over in name only or by tradition because their parents never taught them rightly, deeply or thoruughly. Or, they are really legalists that never understood or experienced the grace of forgiveness and acceptance through faith alone (but not faith that stands alone). Evangelicalism is not moralism or some performance trip based on worls like hyper home-schooling or how to get rich. That kills the soul. over time like anything else. You need to explore the doctrines of grace carefully and fiocus on the teachings of Jesus in light of what He did to back it up, and not judge based on one church experience or two where the teaching may not have been accurate or complete or loving or well-communicated. Most people exposed to the gospel and come away dissatisfied are those that were given a watered down version, or a divided version of its truth, or were blocked by other turmoils in life, or never experienced the grace of God by true kindness.

If there was no God, there would be no atheists.

Before going to the rally, read “Onetime Visitor”

IF you will be intellectually honest, two truths exist:
1) You cannot prove that God exists.
2) You cannot prove that God doest NOT exist.

Deism and atheism BOTH require FAITH!

It is rather sleazy of CBS to post that picture of a crowded Mall.

The first Christians, from whom the Catholic Church was formed, believe one has until one’s dying breath to repent and turn to God, and we Catholics believe in a merciful God, so it’s unknown whether any souls, in fact, are in Hell. We simply cannot know who, at the moment of their death, will believe and thus be saved.

Consider this atheists…in a universe that is expanding and contracting into infinity an infinite number of times there exists the infinite probability that either all exists or all will exist at some point in time.   If it is not now then it is simply a matter of when.  The probability of god outweighs that of non-existence of god by an infinite number.   It is held by the People of the Book that God is the Alpha and Omega… He is infinity and all probability except that of 0 probability.   He is any number x that approaches the limit of y.

Since believers are by definition idiots, it’s not surprising they don’t understand what this rally is all about.

Misery loves company. That i s what this rally is all about. By the way, where were they when the Liberals of New York gave unprecedented access to Muslims to build a Mosque on ground zero, where the Twin Towers once stood? After all, it was RADICAL Islam that destroyed them. Where is the separation of Mosque and State?
The gathering of Misery. Atheists have no hope.

When the devil tried to tempt Jesus he said he would give him all the cities of the world. Even then, the devil already owned the Earth and the people who walked the Earth. Because of Jesus, only those who he doesn’t “own” are those who follow Jesus. I have no fear of my death because I know the spirit is stronger then the physical world. I’m excited about the great adventure that follows this life. When I die, I want to walk with Jesus. Please wake and follow Jesus. No, you can’t see him. No, there is no physical proof. But, once you feel Him in your heart, that’s all the proof you need. He (the Holy Spirit known as Jesus through God) does exist.

If you are rallying in Washington, it is political.

Obviously Pol Pot, Lenin, Stalin, Fidel Castro and the rest were VEWEY, VEWEY smart!!

Well, this is still the United States, and they have a Constitutional right to express themselves just as any other American group can do. As long as they are not pushing their beliefs on me, and do not hinder me for believing in the God I choose to honor. I say leave them alone and let them have their rally.

As long as the thought police are still put in check by the American public. they have the right, and let’s all hope it remains that way, because before we know it this fundamental right we now enjoy could at some point down the line be taken away from us. There are people in this country right now who are fighting to have this freedom taken away from us. They must not win or get their way. Like I said, this is still for the moment the United States.

Philippians 2:10-11

King James Version (KJV)

10That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

11And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Atheists are a huge factor in the moral decline of our society.While Christians and God fearing people do nothing to effect an atheists life,atheists are in fact effecting ours.Our once great nation will be judged for its murder of unborn babies,and all the abominations that have become common place in our way of life.I will pray for these people and hope that they find God.What is their hope for me?That I not care for the sick and lost?That I not donate to missions and feed the poor?That I believe that I will one day enter a grave and be no more?That would be unbearably depressing.

Obama will no doubt be heading this little gathering.

Pol Pot, Fidel and Raul Castro, Kim Jong-il, Hồ Chí Minh, Lenin, Stalin, etc. Very reasonable and SMART people. Without a single smidgen of beliefs.

Memento mori, folks. It can all be theoretical until we draw our last breath.

Jesus was not a liberal and he was critical of the Pharisees and the ruling body of the Jews. The Christian responsibility to mankind is the preaching of the Gospel of salvation to a lost world. If Jesus was a liberal, Yasser Arafat was a Jew!

“Massive”?

Really? wanna bet whether it is going to be bigger than all the Pro Life rallies you don’t cover?

The media doesn’t even fake like they are impartial any more and/or they are so oblivious in their bias that they don’t know it exists.

Claiming that atheists have a belief system is like claiming that people who don’t believe the sky is made of red Jello have a belief system. The absence of something does not imply the existence of something to replace it.

“There is no rain today,” doesn’t lead you to assume the observer believes the sky must be full of snow, or tornadoes, or a plague of locusts, does it? And there is nothing inherently “negative” about the statement. It is simply an observation based on the absence of reliable evidence to the contrary: there is no rain today.

If you choose to believe there is rain today, or supernatural beings wringing their hands over your every activity, or that the sky is made of red Jello, more power to you. But someone who doesn’t hold that belief does not require a “replacement” belief.

Belief systems are not zero-sum games, and in fact, that shoehorning of your way of thinking is precisely the reason atheists feel the need to “demonstrate” at all: because most religions are established with a built-in intolerance of anyone who refuses to prostate themselves to the system. Gods were invented to explain things which seemed, at the time, to be inexplicable. Religions were invented to promote one belief system over competing systems. They are control systems — the first governments, in effect. And the time for both has passed.

Hey, Blade. What pray tell, is Radical Islam? Islam is all things anti-Christian and rejecting of western culture. They all really hate us non-Muslim. Too them we are sub-human, infidel, and deserve to die like dogs. That’s why they behead. Hanging is too good for us. So again, what is Radical Islam?

oh, can’t be stereotyped like athiests stereotype religious people?
The front people for athiests are more obnoxiously preachy about it that any religious people. Ironic, huh?

Just don’t take off your shoes and stand in the reflecting pool while holding hands.

Why must this rally become a religious battleground? As a christian, I feel heartbroken over that number of people who don’t believe in a divine purpose for their life but as an American i believe in everything this country should stand: that means their right to rally and freely believe as well as mine. Perhaps there ARE a few laws and some legal precedence in our beautiful country which too closely integrate church and state. I am not, personally, an expert on the subject. Their theological belief may not agree with mine but gathering together to take a step that might bring this country back to a state of true freedom and liberty is and idea I support.

You mean he is a metheist?

Atheism, a religion practiced by non-believers in religion.

I don’t believe in God and I’m not upset. I don’t think bowing is good. I accept what evidence supports, in everything. No evidence = no acceptance.

License is not liberty.

The bible is falsified mythology. That you people believe the stupid that is in it is your problem not mine. Population genetics falsified Adam and Eve, Geology falsified a global flood, Planetology falsified the idea that a god is required to the universe to exist, Cosmology falsified the need for a god to explain the origin of the universe and Biology has falsified creationism. Atheist rely upon facts backed up by evidence not bronze age mythology written by ignorant middle eatern goat herders.

@KRP that’s alll well and good but wouldn’t God know better??

A belief in the apocalypse this December is just another reason of why this rally is called the “Reason Rally.” Honestly, folks, does anyone actually believe the world is going to end in December?

Uugghh! Without God there is no “compassion, empathy, logic, and reason…” If there is no absolute right and wrong, then all you have is Stalin, Pol Pot, Lenin, Hitler, etc…If atheism and evolution are true, then these men were right in what they did; only the strong survive. We wouldn’t want to get rid of these evil men, we would only strive to replace them with ourselves, as we would wish to be the strongest.

Apparently you can’t see how your argument eats itself….

If atheists are wrong, which religion and which god is correct?

“tyranny and despotism” – bow down to me, worship me or suffer my wrath.

Sound familiar?

Your concept of evolution is a little shallow. Go back about 4 billion years, not just the 20th century. Nature and natural selection is beautiful. Read books and ask questions, it is enlightning.

So your answer is to push atheism down everyone else’s throats? What’s funny to me is that this rally proves that atheism is as much a “religion” as Christianity, Judaism, or Islam.

What’s really funny to me is the thread in this rally which seeks to convert others to atheism, much like the Mormons who go door-to-door seeking converts to their Church.

No, atheism is not the absence of religious beliefs. Atheism is a religious belief.

This is just plain silly. Although I don’t like the term, I am an atheist. I have never, in my 62 years, been threatened by religion or felt it was being used against me, publicly or privately. I also have the utmost respect for others beliefs. If they feel I’m damned for eternity for my beliefs, so be it. I don’t believe in stuff like that so it’s meaningless to me. Why some non-believers have to get in people’s faces like this with rallies and demands is beyond me. I’ll have nothing to do with it.

Natural man find God and the word Foolishness, Atheists are natural Men, They cant see it or understand it, More then likely never will but they feel it, They know its there, Like a itch they cant scratch

We can be in three states: moral, ethical or legal.
Atheists can not be moral as morality is based on God’s rule, morality can not be defined by the individual.
Atheist can not even be ethical as ethical behavior is based on a moral rule.
The only state an atheist can be is legal.
These organizers are not non believers they are anti-believers. If God were not an issue for them, they wouldn’t have to convince me they are right.

You are rationalizing this to fit your denial of your faith. You can belief you as a person is perfect, or a failure, or beautiful, or ugly. Atheists believe that they are not attached or dependent on a creator, and distance themselves from organized groups that believe in a creator with the same rules.
So does Atheists organized now to evaluate the non connection to God

Let’s pr ay God blesses them with good weather:)

So you’re going with Pascal’s Wager, huh? Only problem with that theory is that god is all knowing, and he knows what is in your heart (supposedly). I’m not sure it counts if your siding with god because that is the smarter bet.

Secondly, you are rolling the dice also. You’re betting that your christianity is the right religion. Your version of it. Out of all of the religions that do and have existed. The only difference between you and an atheist is the atheist believes in 1 less god than you do (out of the thousands).

And the reason why atheists scream and yell about hating christians, christmas, etc. has nothing to do with guilt. It is because decisions at the highest levels are framed around a myth (in atheist eyes). Atheists are forced to live in a religous world that they find archaic.

Secondly, the world is falling apart around us because of a complete sub-set of humans that are fighting about who has the better invisible man in the sky. AND the religous amongst us are ushering this in because they believe it is prophecied and the other side of the apocolypse is heaven for them. So who is making the big gamble here???

This is why atheists group together. For reason. For thoughtful examination. For planning a futures based on fact. Not feelings. Not a belief system.

whatever you believe is fine – until it affects the whole future of the planet and human species.

I wonder who will give the invocation.

And of the “thousands” to rally, only 3 are going to miss work.

Rally on wrong day 4/1/2012 RIGHT one. The pic they used was probably Tea Party gathering

Gays are bound to be there. Lock up the little boys.

You profess belief, i.e. “faith”, in god, for which, there is absolutely no objective evidence. This blind faith is based on a book of myths, allegories, superstitions, contradictions, vagueness and falsehoods. And when logiical, reasonable, rational, ojbective people reject illogical, unreasonable, irrational, subjective “faith” in a nonexistent god, you get your panties all in a wad. Get your bible-thumping out of your self-richteous butt and try to wake up.

Norton is just mad because non-atheists are correct for reassuring him that him and his boyfriend will never be able to have a baby from the butt.

The fool has said in his heart that there is no God. I don’t believe I can make this rally therefore I will not be there.

Prove that there is no God and I’ll come to the rally.

True Christians (Follower of Christ and the living God)

For the sake of the God we believe in, please do not sin and join in spreading hatred against non-believers. Ours is not the authority to judge as that authority rest solely with the Creator at the end of time.

Scripture, the Word of God, admonishes us over and over to make ourselves right with God and tells us that struggling with the person that has made up his or her mind against God is a futile effort as they do not possess the indwelling of the Spirit of God that convicts those of us who rest in in his grace and forgiveness through our faith in him. Without that Spirit, resting within our bodies, scripture tells us the person who rejects God and the Spirit shall be in confusion.

God sent his Son to die for all men, including atheists and the only “work”, for lack of a better word at this moment, that must be preformed by each of us is to accept, on faith, that He is faithful and just to forgive us. It is that faith, through God’s grace, that converts a person for God and away from Satan, not the words and rantings of men who claim to be followers of the Living God yet follow the ways of the world to achieve their goals.

Scripture, God’s Word, tells us how to recognize the bearers of God’s Word that are not genuine. A true follower of Christ, a Christian, does well to recall the Words of Christ and the Prophets that says these people will be known by their fruits. If you claim to be Christian and do not have that understanding might I suggest you study Matthew 7:13 through 28.

I to struggled with unbelief and, at different points of time to be atheist, agnostic and even Christian. It was not until I studied God’s Word in scripture for myself, and not listened to the words of any man, that I truly came to the above realization that I was saved by his grace through my faith in Him and that all of my works were as filthy rags and accomplished nothing.

By surrendering my life to His will and following His commandments as a demonstration of my love for Him I gained the complete assurance and confidence in my personal fate at the end of time.

Gradually I also came to the understanding that how I conduct my personal life in relationship with believers and non-believers was the best message I could send about the magnificent Love that God has for each man and the free will grace that only He can bestow upon those who follow Him through complete and unwavering faith.

Does this mean that I am without sin or better than anyone else. No! For I too have sinned and become short of the glory of God. The only salvation that I will have come the end of time is my faith in God/Jesus Christ and demonstrate that faith through my love of him and my willingness to follow his commandments of me.

Peace be to all mankind through the bounding love of God.

Respectfully

I couldn’t care less whether individuals pray to an entity or not. My problem iswith those who believe that “god will provide,” often also believe that “if god won’t, the government will.” We need to become more self-reliant and stop looking to others (be they gods or governments) to support us.

Prove that we die to nothing and I’ll come to the rally.

The statement that there are 40-50 million Americans that are atheist is incorrect. Since journalism is dead, then I guess I must do the real reporting. Read this: http://www.gallup.com/poll/147887/americans-continue-believe-god.aspx
This Gallup Poll says that 9 in 10 Americans believe in God. That number should be more like 20-30 million.

In any case. Why would anyone expect atheist to want to fellowship and be evangelist for a belief in nothing? We Christians and other God believers are always getting criticized for doing just that.

thebraverepublicdotcom

Wait. Rally to celebrate that “we are getting stronger” with no coherent message or reason. What a waste of time. Might as well call it occupy atheism.

The sad fact is just like; the Arabs whipping themselves on the back, the Christians murdering the Indiginous people of Africa and the Western Hemisphere, the “Chosen People” against the Wogs, the Religious Right about Gay marriage, abortion, and birth control, or the monks in their hair suits. I do not care about their belief in their whatever. If there is a God it is between the person and the belief, and a meeting of athiests is just another group of humans trying to affect others beliefs without an invitation. We have religious freedom in this country and I wish both sides would shut up. I want a freedom from religion. Prove yourself to your God and not to me. Your religion does not mean diddley unless you sin against me because of it.

Abolutely right! To cling to foklore of centuries ago is so stupid that it’s hard to imagine. When our telescopes that can see for thousands of lignt years finds heaven I may have to become a believer but not untill!

[citation needed]

The rally will fizzle for lack of interest.Besides who cares what a bunch of godless people do

@ Anita: Never said I agreed with Ayn Rand. I pointed her out because she has millions of “followers,” was an atheist, and was decidedly anti-communist. “Truth on the march” believes that nearly all atheists are Marxists. I destroyed that idiotic opinion, and, apparently, you are not bright enough to understand my point.

Then the apostles were not following Jesus when they sold their possesions and lived communally?

All that believed were together, and had all things in common; And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
(Acts 2:44-45)

There was not a needy person among them, for as many as owned lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold. They laid it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need. There was a Levite, a native of Cyprus, Joseph, to whom the apostles gave the name Barnabas (which means “son of encouragement”). He sold a field that belonged to him, then brought the money, and laid it at the apostles’ feet.
(Acts 4:34-37)

I would call that pretty liberal (and as an atheist Republican Capitalist, a really bad idea).

I”m gonna start a group for people who don’t listen to Justin Bieber recordings.

“Assume that there is a creator”. Aye, there’s the rub.

There are no gods. Anyone who believes otherwise is a fool.

Miguel;

Well said – apparently no one picked up on my sarcasm. You said:

“I would not trust you any further than I can see you, and then only in direct line of sight … for you have no outside judgment, no unseen restrictions, no second judgment to prevent your malfeasance. What are your restrictions – your life experience, your code? Life is yours for taking, if unseen you can get away with anything, never mind you see ‘no’ personal codifiable restrictions. Man’s laws, which are based upon the very deity that you abhor or deny … you can break any law because you are an outlaw …. an anarchist.

These are the members of moral decay, members of the religion of zero….”

Precisely right. There are three types of people in this world: Those who hold to a moral standard that is outwardly focused – based on a objective standard defined outside of our human existance that is unchanging for all time. Second, there are those whose moral code is inwardly focused – I look out for myself and no one else. And finally those who have NO moral code – their “code” is relativistic – applicable only to the “NOW”.

Of the second, you can “trust” them because they will always act in their own interest and in their own interest alone – they have in effect a moral standard that says “ME FIRST” before all else. You can plan and compensate for this. The first, having a moral code defined outside of human existence by an Ultimate Being also have a defined moral code that makes them predictable – and trustworthy – you just have to know what their religion teaches. But the latter – the true Atiheist – who has no moral code can never be trusted because their moral code is based on their perspective and their perspective relevant to the particular time, place, and context.

Miguel – you of all the posters here truly understand the horrible potential of atheism. You “get it” and understand why Hilter, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot could casually murder millions of people without a second thought You “get it” when understanding how atheism permits the most horrible depravity a human is capable of committing and casually looks the other way.

This is the same organization Madelyn Murray-O’Hair founded some 50 years ago. Sounds just as paranoid as they did then. And some of their rhetoric is just as hateful and fearful as it did then. Just a bunch of immature brats seeking attention.

Trust me, these “Lesser Evolved” worship something.

and what’s with the picture showing Millions on the Mall?, the article clearly states they expect no more than a few thousand? (Should make for Loads ‘O Trash), make them pick up every last crumb, God would want it that way.

Atheist? Not possible. I read some of these comments from truth deniers and catch myself chuckling but in reality it is sad. God presents evidence in His creation and deniers still refuse truth. God presented His Son as the ultimate evidence of His authorship of life and the only grounds to eternally refuse access to His Presence is to deny who Jesus is.But wait, God also infused our ability to reason by giving us the ability to exercise faith. .Faith strengthens reason and is the element God uses in our reality to complete the act of reasoning. Deniers possess no ability to exclude God from reality, they, like those of us who joyfully embrace His reality have one thing in common, grace! The wise will accept it, the fool reject it. Choose wisely my friend.

We believe in our God given right to not believe.
… wait there is no God.
Oh, what the hell.
… oops no hell either.
Well you know what I don’t mean.
Er, what I don’t believe, I mean.
Jeez…what the heck am I talking about?
Damn, Jeez doesn’t exist either…
But since I don’t believe I can’t be damned either…
Man, I’m going home.
I don’t believe it. I need a drink.

Yes, bow down to me. Reads like Mao. Reads like Stalin. Both good atheists.

I noticed you didn’t make the attempt to answer my charges. That’s okay, because you’re not capable – and you’re not alone. Nobody else will be able to at the Nothingness Protest either.

But at least you could have made the attempt to show me your atheistic good works. Surely, you can do something as simple as that.

As to my shallowness of evolution, I’m betting my trip to med school would trump your credential. So…why go back 4,000,000,000 years which is sheer speculation, when you’re not capable of discerning even the last 50 years as observed and measured, rube?

He didn’t. You did. You chose to make atheism your own pet religion, under the precepts of free will, required for true love.

40 to 50 million atheists in the USA ? Why am I not surprised that CBS did not challange this number ? This was a CBS editorial, not an unbiased article. Watch the media grossly inflate the number of participants in this event while totally ignoring the 400 thousand that go to the Right to Life rally in DC annually. So much for objective journalism.

Methinks a lot of these people really feel the twitch upon the string Evelyn Waugh spoke about.

The world already coddles the atheist and shuns the spiritual. Why do atheists even want to censor and outlaw spirituality? They are not very secure in their non-belief. They insist everyone, including children, be forcefully exposed and indoctrinated in their beliefs, while at the same they ban all spiritual expression. If they truly did not believe, spirituality would be no more of a threat to them than an image of Santa Claus.

I am an atheist and I see myself as a very positive person. I simply don’t beleive in gods and devils etc.

I have total control of my moral compass… a strong one. Stronger, I think than most christians. I have this advantage over followers of religions: I have the freedom to disagree with a religious point of view without fear of eternal damnation. That’s a very liberating thing and a hugely powerful tool. I have the freedom to pull from great teachings of all religions. I have the freedom to reject horrible beliefs taught by those same religions. I can think for myself in my pursuit of becoming the best person that I can be. I think that happiness is a by-product of a life well-lived. Life is pretty simple… you get what you give! If you give negativity, guess what you get! Yep, you guessed it! Love yourself and others… work hard… take care of one another…

Fortunately we all have the opportunity to reject religion and take back the great guidlines to life that have been abused and perverted by the religions of the world.

I’m stunned so many people think religion is the source of moral behavior. Humans and animals learned long ago that there’s safety in numbers. In order to maintain those numbers, individuals have to cooperate with each other, look out for each other, close ranks when the group is under attack, etc. When an individual member of the group does something harmful, he’s ousted from the group and his chances for survival plummet. In order to survive, humans and animals have to live by the moral code of the group. Morality has nothing to do with religion. It’s about survival. For the last time, atheists have morals just like everyone else!

There are plenty of right-wing atheists who have no use for left-wing atheists — the sort who ran the Soviet dictatorship — they who replaced “God” with “Government.”

Right-wing atheists tend to replace “God” with “the fishing pole” and some thoughtful quiet time with the kids to make sure that they get launched into the future with otherwise traditional American ideals, for there is much that is good here and worth defending.

A lack of a belief in god is not a lack of beliefs.

They are acting more and more like a religion every day.

Have weekly meetings, have evangelists for their belief in no deities. Have more or less been codifying a dogma for years.

While using the shield that they don’t believe in a god some how makes them not a religion. I cant wait for the court cases against them and what they try to pull start rolling in.

Atheism positively asserts that God does not exist. In other words, it asserts a negative.

Negative statements cannot be proved – Logic 101.

Thus, atheism is logically self-defeating.

40-50 million athiests in the US?
I don’t believe it.

Religion is a cancer upon humanity, and the sooner it’s dead, the better.

Atheists share a common fault with Christians and Moslems … they profess to KNOW the unknowable. If you begin with the premise that no propositions are true, merely probable, very probable or improbable or nonsense, then every day you can grade the claim on the basis of that day’s evidence.

Accepted, today the god hypothesis is highly improbable, we must still keep our receptors open from day to day for facts that will change that judgment.

Atheism=The God of Self. It is a religion, despite protests and Atheists put themselves on the throne of God. Praise Him for having the patience to let atheists decide for themselves their eternal destination, hell or heaven. Many are called but few are chosen.

Excellent, now we get to truly see how many atheists there actually are in this country. Event participants at the National Mall more times than not represent 1-3% of that total constituency. This will be an outstanding sociological exercise and will be watching this on C-Span or will have blog reporters in the field.

Mr. Silverman, you and your constituent leadership are playing your hands here with a National Mall event as this event will tell no lies.

its not a negative belief. Atheism is a religion of its own, with its own zealots.

The people on here making pro-religious comments are hilarious. I read through them for about 15 minutes just because its so funny to me how dumb some people are. “I hope jesus comes and performs a mircle” on me right now…. would be a nice way to start the Weekend.

As I stated below Kelvin, National Mall events tell no lies. Those that participate comprise 1-3% of the total constituency most times. We shall see…

so is anarchy and general disregard for laws and social mores

I hope they pray for good weather!

I suggest you pause, take a deep breath, then sharpen your definition of “evidence”. Ex videre — ‘from seeing’. If it doesn’t register on the known senses, you’re not allowed to call it evidence.

You may use the terms ‘interpretation’ or ‘inference’, ‘testimony’ or even the old standby ‘revelation’. But none of them holds the demanding scientific caché of evidence.

No man can serve two masters .He will either love the one ,and hate the other! Or he will hold to the one ,and hate the other!!

Distributed to each!! Each apostle!! BROTHERLY LOVE.!! So if I give to brothers whom need it. I should not share?? Or I am a “socialist”? NA!!! And what you say is foolishness!!

My thoughts exactly! Q. What does a Christian and a dead atheist have in commeon? A. They both believe in God.

I’ve been near death a few times during my life. never once did I decide to turn to a 2000 year old man up in the sky with a long ass ZZ-Top beard and sandals to help me through it.

Never will.

Los,

The evidence indicates you’ve probably identified the origin of the god hypothesis.

Now, why do so many subscribe to it with so little proof? They don’t have nearly the same difficulty seeing that Santa, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy or Leprechaun all represent symbols with NO referent … in the semanticist’s terms they are ‘Empty Sets’.

If our companies are closed how can we get in the building and work? Idiot.

You mean the Glenn Beck that likes dressing up as Atheist Thomas Payne?

Without God everything is permissable.

what amazes me is how people forget their history. I guess that why the government wants to bi pass history. Out rights come for a higher authority which the founders called God. Under the King, all rights came for the gov’t or tyhe KIng. We need God to secure our rights weether you believe in him or not… Once we say he does not exist we have enslved ourselves to the King again.

“We are endowed by our Creator…..” with the right to say there IS no creator.

How about the following week holding the same dog and pony show in some…any…Muslim country?

Perpetual cognitive dissonance is not a virtue or a sign of advanced intelligence, which is what you are referring to as your challenge.

If you want to be an armchair theologian, go ahead, What has theology ever contributed to the world? Not much of anything useful.

When my grandmother died three years ago I was curious if God existed and if Heaven was real so I asked her to send me an email with a bunch of photos of God and heaven from her camera. I’m still waiting for them. Which means God and Heaven doesn’t exist or the wi-fi really sucks there. Either way – NO THANKS!

As you believe, so you will behave. And as you behave, so you will become. But if you believe nonsense, you will behave nonsensically and you will become another senseless … (supply your own concept.)

I wish they held elections in Heaven every 4 years like they do here in this country where you could vote for a new God because I gotta tell ya, the one they got up there running things now is doing one helluva sh***y job.

Very well said!!! You beat me to it and I’m glad you did as you are much more eloquent than me.

Oh, you’re welcome.

Like a priests love for his young plaything.

It means that we are pattern seeking animals that look for causes where there may be none. And we tend to form groups for protection and community based around possibly nonsensical beliefs because it protects us and provides benefits of association. Is that more clear?

Check this out – We are beating the Christians by far.

http://www.kiva.org/team/atheists

Perhaps this gathering can be combined with that of the Flat Earth Society.

And who will be left around the White House to run the country while this fiasco is taking place?

At least we know he’s real though. I’ve met him. If your pretend guy is so real why doesn’t he show himself? Just show up at a seafood place for dinner. Oh, that’s right – you Christys don’t believe in eating shellfish. That’s a sin against God and punishable by death. Bad news for any of you that have eaten at Red Lobster now isn’t it?

To respond to the lengthy, contrived, and complicated comment of “Darwin’s Predator”, of why atheism is supposedly liberating. As Albert Einstein said, “Anyone can make the simple complicated. Creativity is making the complicated simple.”

If they want to hold a rally then that’s their business, but don’t try to make me feel inferior if I don’t hold to similar beliefs.

And that applies to both sides of the debate.

I’m not sure if holding a rally is a great way to demonstrate how reasonable you are.

Snark and self-satisfaction are just as annoying in Atheists as it is in the religious. If you want people to stop hating you, stop ranting about your beliefs. And that goes for EVERYONE, not just Atheists.

Have you been watching the news lately? Seriously? Constitutional rights aren’t being infringed on? Really? We should keep our legs closed and get back in the kitchen because it’s God’s way? See I can write a whole bunch of rhetorical questions in a row too.

As a Christian I fully feel they have every right to assemble the same as everyone. They are Americans an should have their rights protected. Just because someone does not believe what they do shouldn’t give them the right to tell them they are any less.

I won’t believe in God until I see HIS birth certificate. See, Baggers? We can play that game too. So where is it? HIS birth certificate? You’d think he could easily post it to Facebook or somethjng. Isn’t there a Staples Business Depot in Heaven he could get that printed off and copied? Geez, you’d think that would be something he could easily do.

Quote,”…in a universe that is expanding and contracting into infinity an infinite number of times there exists…”

Except that it isn’t, dope.

But Jesus did not put a gun to their heads and say obey like Obama says. Socialists steal from others, and the commandment don’t steal is one of ten. Voluntarily doing something is different then force.

Can’t worship something that I can’t respect. Can’t do it. And furthermore, I can’t fear something I have no evidence for. I might as easily fear the bogey man.

If you voted for Obama, then you believe in the Supreme Leader, who wants to be God, and might be God for you.

How vapid can a belief be that it is threatened
by a “Christmas” tree or the 10 Commandments
inscribed on an historic building? Even a cross
in the desert causes them to rise up. Are we expected to obliterate 2000 years of history so
that an atheist won’t be offended? Whether
they like it or not, the USA has a foundation of
Judeo-Christian beliefs. To deny that is to deny
our history. I am aware that is EXACTLY what
Michelle Obama wants, but there are millions of
us who do not want “to change our history or our
traditions” and have always been proud of “our
country”. One of the major themes of this
administration is to obscure the truth by a massive propaganda machine and the complicity
of the MSM. WAKE UP. Atheists are free to
assemble, to engrave their beliefs (or lack
thereof) on their buildings, to celebrate their
holidays. etc. but in no way should that give them the right to expunge the practices of
other beliefs. This administration’s protection
and defense of Islam far exceeds any respect
for Judaism or Christianity. If they are proud
of being atheists, let them march at will, but
leave my Christmas tree alone.

Do you believe in Unalienable rights ?

Hitler was a baptized Catholic. Nice try.

The ten commandments have been proven throughout history to work, so look at them as tried and true throughout evolution.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/01/atheism-america-religious-right

You must be referring to Obama.

The rally should be moved to April 1st. That would be more appropriate (and meaningful). 40-50 million atheists in the US? Balderdash. But keep wishing!

I believe most religious people are just brainwashed. Look at how they raise their kids. They freak out when their kids are exposed to any other opinions other than their own. I also believe most are too afraid to overcome their brainwashing due to their own fear of death.

See, I’m an atheist that “believes” stuff

The Atheists must believe in something, else why would they gather in Washington, D.C.?

Earl,

Be careful what you are saying. Consider the words of the Apostle Paul in Romans 1:28-32

And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil, full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, insolent, arrogrant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.

Now the Good News is that God provides a way for our salvation through Jesus Christ. For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son so that whosoever believes in HIm should not perish, but have eternal life.

That’s my prayer for you and anyone else reading this.

The Religion of atheism.

Funny stuff.

And so what will the slogans on their posters be: “WE DON’T WANT ANYTHING!” and ‘WE’RE HERE BECAUSE IT’S A LOVELY DAY AND TV IS BORING”? Please! As it is with gay marriage — witness every few gays actually do marry — it’s nothing but an egoistic, self-centered tantrum and a case of ‘IN YOUR FACE!” to both believers and upholders of what is admittedly something new in history, having been around for only thousands of years without challenger, the sanctity and usefulness to the race of the traditional marriage bond. Both

El Loco,

I believe God created the universe, the planets, etc.

Here is what you believe:

Something came from nothing
Life comes from lifelessness

Now, which belief is illogical, unreasonable, or irrational?

If you believe those things, then your faith is greater than mine.

Who is going to do the invovation and the benediction?

Didn’t you hear? God likes atheists. He even made it rain during their conference in Texas last fall, after much state prayer for rain. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Days_of_Prayer_for_Rain_in_the_State_of_Texas

So then, what will the slogans on their posters be: “WE DON’T WANT ANYTHING!”, ‘WE’RE JUST HERE BECAUSE WE’RE HERE,” and ‘WE’RE HERE BECAUSE IT’S A LOVELY DAY AND TV IS BORING”? Please! As it is with gay marriage — witness every few gays actually do marry — it’s nothing but an egoistic, self-centered tantrum and a case of ‘IN YOUR FACE!” to both believers and upholders of what is admittedly something new in history, having been around for only thousands of years without challenger, the sanctity and usefulness to the race of the traditional marriage bond. Both

Ryan, based on whose concept of, “compassion, empathy, logic, and reason”?
Who will be brought forth to dictate to the rest of us the meaning of those terms?

One question I have is what rule of law do they believe in as if they believe in not to steal,not to kill,not to bear false witness, not to be jealous of others success, do they not follow Christian/Judea law from which this country was founded on.It sounds to me they are just mad at God whoever he is…………………..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_against_atheists

You guys claiming to be atheists are not consistent and making logical errors, what you are describing a lot is the belief system of an agnostic, if you are an agnostic atheist, then be clear about it.

Jesus H – if theories about something were like tv channels then by definition you cannot have one that is a channel ‘tv turned off’. If you say, “I don’t know if there is a God, and I don’t spend a moment thinking about it.” Then THAT would be a closer analogy to turning the TV off, but if you say “There is no God” then you are promoting a theory which is like any other “tv channel”.

RationalAsh – you are describing agnostic atheism, but it is interesting because lots of atheists seem to say this more and more. One could say that more appropriately in describing somebody else who never spends a moment or has a thought considering God, like if you were describing an ant or a squirrel that definition would apply, but as soon as you discuss it as a theory and consider – and as soon as you form an opinion that ‘there is no God’ – you are drawing a conclusion that cannot be proven, and you no longer fit your own definition.

M1 – You are doing the same thing, call yourself an agnostic atheist to be honest, or don’t form any conclusive opinions. Your totally subjective and unprovable claims about why “Gods were invented” and “Religions were invented” makes you sound more like an antitheist as the late Christopher Hitchens described himself.

Why would you show a photo of the Glen Beck Rally-certainly not about atheists, to make the atheists rally seem like a big deal. Show a photo of how many showed up last year. Try not to let your liberal bias show too much

And it will be just as effective and life-altering as my first baptism, which is to say NOT AT ALL.

Perhaps we would take that as a sign of God’s existence, which up to this point has been very much less than obvious. If I could go, I would.

Did you know that when the state of Texas prayed for rain they didn’t get it. But when the atheists had a conference in Texas in the fall, it finally started raining. Either that’s chance, or God approves of atheists. Either way, I’m content.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Days_of_Prayer_for_Rain_in_the_State_of_Texas

Maybe they will create a graven image of their god, Darwin. They could look up to the statue of Persephone (goddess of the underworld) on top of the capital building for re-assurance that DC is pagan and not Christian.

Earl Eakin – “Atheism is liberating”

In a similar fashion, there is nothing more liberating than allowing yourself to go insane – only then can you truly believe whatever you want.

how do you rally people who have no beliefs or a code. it would just be a bunch of people milling around taking pictures. but no group in the last 50 years has forced itself on america more than this group. as far as i am concerned believe nothing but do not force others and take away things that most people believe in. you have no rights because you donot believe in anything, so you dont need your rights none to give for nothing!

Sad how some only operate on 5 senses.
I can’t see a radio or wifi signal so therefore they do not exist.

That is just wrong… I shouldn’t have laughed so hard.

Atheists confuse religion and intelligent design, which are obviously not the same. Einstein wrote that there is a mountain of evidence to support a priori intelligent design, and those who dismiss it are incapable of real logical analysis.

Liberated? Or Dust in the Wind?
Now Listen to … Kansas – Dust in the wind 1977

The Question of Free Will.

Albert Einstein, “I do not believe in Freedom of the Will.” Stephen Hawking, in The Grand Design, explains Free Will is an illusion. All matter (including the brain) is subject only to the laws of physics. BF Skinner, “Any man who thinks he is free, is merely ignorant of the causes of his own behavior.”

We are dust in the wind means we are simply matter in motion, blown around by forces of Nature, we have no Choice — Human behavior is a physics problem.

Free Will is a Miracle A gift of God … if you believe you have been liberated … you Must also believe in God.

Loco seems like an antitheist, not an atheist…you are right on eagleone, if they believe something came from nothing, then they believe in a miracle. I like this quote that illustrates their position “`Hydrogen is a light, odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.”

Kudos. The gathering, being a ‘Reason Rally’, is not as much about religion as it is about maintaining a secular space around civic government and exercise of scientific inquiry.

Regular little Guy

To err is human to forgive is devine.

I forgive you for not taking the cross and following the Lord

and do as He commands.

Jude 1:23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

Romans 5:6 (NKJV)
For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.

The atheists are lost children who have been lead into darkness by the Father of lies and deceit.
They need to be shown the way to the light which is through the power of the Holy Spirit of our Lord God Jesus Christ.

Everyone is of God we are all Gods children, but have you been saved by the blood of the lamb and by the only name that can save you, Jesus

Please pray for these atheists,they are ungodly now .
The Lord sees and hears them and waits for them to come to Him.

Peace be unto you

The Lame Stream Media will be sure to include the protester, who will probably be at least twice the atheist number, double the sum and publish that as a “conservative estimate”. No BIAS is expected.

What will they sing “Fool on the Hill?”

Look at your money. Do you see “In God We Trust” printed there? Do you know who mints our money? That would be the US government.

I believe it is everyone’s right to believe in anything they want, but it does occur to me that atheists seem to spend an inordinate amount of time and trouble attempting to convince us all that there is no God.
I sometimes wonder if they’re really trying to convince themselves more than anyone?

As a Christian, I follow the Ten Commandments and the greatest commandments. Becuase of these commandments, Christians spend their lives helping others. Think of all the Christian hospitals, schools, missions, clinics, and various ministries to help the poor. What to atheists do? Billions and billions of dollars are given by Christians to help the less fortunate. I’ve never heard of an atheist mission. Why? You don’t need to help anyone, because we’re just bones, so what does it matter? Self serving…is what atheists are. You can break all the commandments mulitiple times because there are none. You can say or do anything, because there are no guidelines. Atheism is just an excuse for selfishness and laziness.

Christian:
If I’m wrong, I lived a relatively good life – no harm, no foul. If you’re wrong, I wouldn’t want to be you for eternity.

Actually, if you’re wrong, and Islam is right, you go to hell. “Good” atheists go to heaven.
If you’re wrong and Judaism is right, you go to hell. “Good” atheists go to heaven.

Christianity is the only religion that specifically sends good non-believers to hell. The odds (population of believers wise) are actually stacked against you.

No it doesn’t. It is a word used to describe people who lack a belief in a god or gods. And we disbelieve your god for the same reason that you disbelieve Thor, Odin and Zeus.

Sad. Atheism, if that ain’t a religion, what is? Just like liberalism. Hey whatever floats your boat. I prefer to call it Communism. We all know the real reason you folks bark so much. Better get your licks in now , cause come november your gonna be cryin, big time.

I’m an atheist and I think this rally is actually a good thing. I made my decision to lose my religion when I was about 20; many of my friends, coworkers and family still assume I’m a christian. I keep it to myself because I know that they would ostracize me for my disbelief. To a religious person, non-religious people have no morals, ethics or faith. They assume we’re all rapists, pedophiles, liars and criminals. I think a rally like this will help educate the public that you can be an atheist and still be a good person and make it easier for people like myself who live in heavily religious areas to be honest about their beliefs.

Religion killed its challengers. Fail.

Yeah, Bible verses sure are fun!

Deuteronomy 2:34
“We conquered all his towns and completely destroyed everyone–men, women, and children. Not a single person was spared.”

sure sounds like a kind and loving God to me

If god opened the ground and swallowed up the atheists..
0.21% of the prison population would be gone.
92% of the scientist population would be gone.
Sounds like a lot of good would be done, huh?

Fortunately, radical Islam isn’t the big problem in this country just yet. The problem is that we can’t be open with our beliefs without be ostracized by family, friends and coworkers. The purpose of the rally is to show that we aren’t all a bunch of manic criminals and that there are actually a lot of us. We’re getting awfully tired of the religious rhetoric in political debates taking focus over actual issues.

Yeah, It’s sorta like the NEGATIVE rights that obambi was talking about, though I confess not to bothered to commit them to memory. Just the concept of negative rights was enough to stir my bowels and sphincter.

We’re a little like them. We just believe in ourselves.
That would be a good campaign slogan “Just Believe in Yourself”.

The Lame Stream Media will be sure to include the protesters, who will probably be at least twice the atheist number, double the sum and publish that as a “conservative estimate”. No BIAS is expected.

Jason
You can’t see the forest for the trees.
It is Gods adversary satan that is destroying the hope mankind needs to
survive which is in our Lord Jesus Christ.
There is only one God and He is Jesus Christ our Lord.
Open your eyes to the truth and look up and call out to Jesus Christ and be saved in His name only and be filled with His precious Holy Spirit to mature and become what the Father wants you to be for Him NOT WHAT THE WORLD (satan)WANTS YOU TO BE.

Peace be unto you

I think it would be great if God would just incenerate every attendee…

Yeah, They are sorta like those negative rights that Obambi was talking about. Fortunately I forget what they are. But I know that he will tell me again how lucky I am to have him for president.

Most atheists I know are VERY negative people anyway. The most joy they get, and their main focus socially, seems to come from belittling the beliefs of others. I can imagine that attending this event will seem very exciting to them!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wealthiest_charitable_foundations
90% of that organizations on that list are secular. Religious bigots that believe secularists and non-religious types don’t care about humanity need to take off their blindfolds and actually inform themselves.

It’s not that they believe in nothing, but that they just don’t feel the NEED to believe in a “God” figure belief. They DO believe in values, science, morality, etc. They also believe in the individuals rights, and personal freedoms Not be dictated to them from others predetermined judgemental predudices that come from a man interpeting the meaning of a book (the bible) written by men over 1500 years ago.

I bet this is what the comment section would have looked like during the civil rights movement if we’d had internet during the 1950s and 60s. A bunch of scared people clinging on to their archaic ideas, afraid of reason and progress, belittling others who don’t agree with their hateful and outdated values.

Congratulations on your religious bigotry. I’m sure your god is pleased.

It seems to me that atheists take on A LOT more baggage as they get older. The ones I know sound and behave exactly like the orthodox of ANY faith- intolerant, smug, holier-than-thou. I see absolutely no difference- atheists do believe in something – even if it the belief in nothing- and thus they become marooned in the same social and cognitive dynamics which humans use to protect the ‘truth’ of their ideas and perspectives. Really, this fad will pass- the fad where people pay attention to the atheists- because once you speak to them you realize that you have had the VERY SAME conversations with really conservative pompous members of any faith. Atheists are the ultimate let down- they seem so ‘fun’, the new ‘rebels’ , but they are actually very boring….zzz….

I think that might be the Stand In the Gap Promise Keepers assembly from 1997.
I will bet any athiest that they can’t leave the Mall as perfectly clean as we did that day.

No, American is correct. Atheists have a faith (look up the definition) – their belief in nothing becomes a belief in something when they use it as a foundation for limiting the worship and beliefs of others. TRUE atheists would not care what others believe or where they observed their practice.

What kind of a picture is that? This is what “journalism” has come to. That may be a picture of any rally… just a file photo added for what purpose? The editor of this web site is irresponsible and dishonest. Label and date that picture. Identify that rally or leave it the hell out. You would not be allowed to receive a grade in any journalism class in the local high school. What a jerk.

One day, Can of Sand, you will heal from your anger and when you do, you will FEAR making ‘sweeping statements’ and creating stereotypes, not because it gives everyone permission to do the exactly same to you, but because it violates an internal creed where truth actually matters. That is the day when you feel truly free.

Yeah with all those Democrats leading the cross burnings

Yeah with all those Democrats leading the cross burnings. You know Harry Byrd, Al Gore Sr, and a cast of characters to long to list

whether they want to admit it or not, their belief in the non-existence of God places God in the very center of their beliefs. it’s funny, God is pivotal to their “religion” or lack thereof.

Show a rally of 100s OF THOUSANDS of believers (most liklely Glenn Beck’s rally) and then suggest this will be like the aetheist rally? Gotta be kidding me! So thousands of people who are so worked up over believing in nothing that they will travel from far and wide to espouse their lack of belief? Sure. Only in CNN-land…

One does not have to attend church services, or belong to an organized religion to believe in a Supreme Being. I’ve been reluctant to join an organized religion, but that does not preclude my belief that there is such a Being out there that’s greater than all of us, that’s beyond our capacity as mere men to comprehend. We all see it differently, but I’ve always thought that any belief was a good one if it gave the person comfort and meaning in their life, and made them better for it. As I see it, we all have the right to believe as we wish, and the right NOT to be hassled or persecuted, or ridiculed for our beliefs. I wouldn’t try and force my beliefs on anyone else, and I’d insist on my rights not to have anyone try to force theirs on me.

How Christian of you, Larry.

Ha, I’m an atheist! Sarcasm doesn’t come across well in text

Most merely claim that it is highly unlikely and they have no reason to believe in such a thing – ie lacking belief.

what else can this “get together” be than a religion bashing convention? the one thing all these people share(other than being human) is they deny the existence of a supreme diety. it’s a denial of reality to say it’s anything else.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse” Rom_1:20

Mar 7:18 And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;
Mar 7:19 Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?
Mar 7:20 And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.
Mar 7:21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
Mar 7:22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
Mar 7:23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

This is where you err.

2Co_4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

2Pe 2:19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
2Pe 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
2Pe 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
2Pe 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

Very good!

Psa 53:1 The fool has said in his heart, There is no God! They have done corruptly; they have committed abominable wickedness; there is none doing good!

“Christianity is the only religion that specifically sends good non-believers to hell. The odds (population of believers wise) are actually stacked against you.”

The God of the Bible – the only true God does not send people to Hell. He allows people to make their own choice. Chose Jesus Christ and live for eternity in Heaven, or chose to reject Jesus Christ and you get to go where you chose to go. God created Hell for Satan and the angels that rebelled and followe him. Hell was not made for man. But man also rebelled – those who seek forgiveness will find it in Jesus the Christ. If you wind up in Hell it’s because you chose that location for all eternity.

No one is so arrogant as he who claims to KNOW that there IS or is NOT a GOD.
True liberation is knowing that you don’t KNOW anything but are open admitting that anything COULD be…..

Well, look at that the Atheists have become a religion. LOL welcome to the many religions Atheists

What is the first word spoken by and atheist when someting happens to them it always includes God. Atheists HAVE NO FAITH. It is foolish to belive that we have creation without a creator. You may not belive in God now but when you check out of this Life you will. Then its too late. Good people don’t go to Heaven-Blood Bought saved people do. I thank God every day for my savior Jesus Christ,its nice to KNOW where I will spend forever.

Isn’t that what I said. Atheism asserts that God does not exist.

Tell you what, I’ll make a reasonable case for the existence of God and you can make a “reasonable” case for the existence of Thor, Odin and Zeus.

here’s one i like, numbers 31:17-18, Moses commands his troops to kill every women and child in Midian, except young virgins who the troops may keep for them selves. and this from the guy who brings down the 10 moral divine dictums down from the mount, no hypocrisy? peace

of the 480000 scientist in the USA working in relevant fields , such as earth and life sciences only about 700 believe in creation theory, that’s less than .15 %(1991 Gallup poll), evolution is one of the most strongly supported theories in all of science and is nowhere near a theory in crisis, the only theory in crisis is biblical theory I’m sorry to say friend , simply for a lack of objective evidence, peace

So the pic in this story shows a huge crowd and says (It’s from another rally). So would it be safe to say that HUGE crowd in the pic is a Tea Party rally and the liberal media is dreaming that the atheist rally could be as big?

hope makes a nice breakfast but a lousy supper, look what humans have accomplished all by themselves, take some credit, don’t just think if something good happens it must be divine intervention and when something bad happens it’s because of sin, peace and love

a dedication from Huckabee, Rep tim scott and the GOP Guitar Czar. http://youtu.be/1447ra8Gcyc

repent, you have hatred in your heart, just kidding ,do what’s in your nature to do, nothing matters but love, peace from an athiest

wait he sacrificed himself, but he’s immortal that’s no sacrifice, we live and die but once now that is sacrifice, peace

because there is no god there are atheists

you don’t need to prove that some thing does not exist, it would be redundant

so the dead and saved go to heaven upon the return of the messiah, is that also true for the damned as well , how does that work, and where are they now just hanging out in the waiting room, just curious,peace

seems like your delusion may just be existential anxiety, live for now my friend there may be no afterlife, don’t put off for tomorrow with jesus what you could be doing today with people that really exist,peace

Maybe next time you can actually die and then come back to tell us that there is no God. Or maybe you will come back as a dog turd.

First, Atheist believe in self creation, which is completely stupid! How can inorganic matter come from nothing, which is a must if you believe in no Creator? Next, how does inorganic matter magically become organic? Spontaneous generation? No! Atheist magic fairy dust I guess.

Only a fool would call themselves an atheist, so Washington DC is a great place for them to go…Go hang out with the rest of Americas liars, thieves and nasty lowlifes…BKA…Politicians.

prove that there is no teapot orbiting mars and I’ll see you in church

Lance, believe it or not, there are pretty well established guidelines for logic and reason. As for empathy and compassion…who needs someone to dictate? We all have a decent idea of what those things mean; we are a nation of 300 million, of course there will still be discussion and disagreement. What would you suggest though, just refer to the bible to answer these questions? If that’s the case, you do realize that the god of the bible tolerates, encourages, or engages in deplorable acts including psychological torture and the murder of children and babies, right? I am not spreading lies about the bible; I can point you to these passages if you don’t think they are in there. Sometimes I wonder if people really, honestly think that the bible is a good source to refer to for morality and/or any sort of rational decision-making?

And for those saying that atheists are negative, pessimistic nihilists, I can say that the vast majority are not. We love this life, we recognize that it is fleeting, and we suspect that this life is all we are going to get, so we try to make the most of it. We are in awe of humanity, of nature, and all of reality. We are good, intelligent people that are willing to question the stories we’ve been taught. And yes…we want our opinions to be heard.

Atheist are the nastiest people in the world and everyone knows it, we just don’t say it in public. First, how can inorganic matter come from nothing, which is a must if you believe in no Creator? Next, how does inorganic matter magically become organic? Atheist magic fairy dust I guess.

Only a fool would call themselves an atheist, so Washington DC is a great place for them to go…Go hang out with the rest of Americas liars, thieves and nasty lowlifes…AKA…Politicians.

Atheists don’t even like other atheist, that why they enjoy hanging out in Christian websites and chat rooms. Go to a chat room full of atheist and it’s like watching paint dry…very painful and boring. Go to a Youtube Christian video or Christian chat room and see how many Atheist go there to post and debate.

Why do atheist go to Christian videos and chat rooms if they don’t believe in God? Because they have no hope, no life and no class!

BTW – And before some lowlife atheist asks why I’m on here, an atheist posted this link on a Christian site, thats why I’m posting this comment.

you made two ad homi-nem attacks,first that mao and stalin were atheist and Mao and stalin were bad therefore atheist are bad, an obvious logical fallacy, and that you have to be smart to be a doctor and you are going to med school ,therefore you must be smart, an obvious fallacious argument, though you may be smart, one must use reason and objectivity as a method of validating information regarding the big questions ,for once we give up reason for faith there is no end to what the insidious control freaks will have us believe, religious dogma is simply a means to control the feeble minded with invisible chains, break free the universe is far more glorious than anything ever written in a book,if god had a language I doubt we would understand it anyway,sorry for ranting, peace

that’s some rich irony boi!

Secular Progressivism is a religion. Want proof? Read Conservatives are from Mars & Progressives are from Venus – get a free download at
http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/132591

What an odd collection of comments. Nonbelievers wish to come together in a nation that claims them to be less than full citizens and believers wonder why. Any minority group should do the same. What would be silly is for believers to have a rally in a country where they are the vast majority.

For those who continue to ask why believers care (even though they know the answer), it’s because too many believers use their supernaturalism as a weapon. Anyone who has that weapon pointed at them will certainly be wise to not be quiet about it.

Plus, as believers certainly know but fail to admit, being an atheist is simply the absence of belief in a god. It is nothing more. If a believer claims otherwise, they are lying to try and find a method of attack because nothing else works.

When people throw up bible verses as proof that their religion is somehow valid, they just make themselves seem more ridiculous. If we don’t believe you god exists, why would anything claimed to come from it be seen as relevant?

NewsBusters: CBS DC Puffs Upcoming ‘Massive’ Washington Rally of Atheists
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2012/02/19/cbs-dc-puffs-upcoming-massive-washington-rally-atheists

CBS Really? Massive? This the way mass communication works in a country of about a billion to report what a possible thousand people collect about nothing reasonable. here is a headline for you “CBS squanders opportunities to report on relevancy” Hey I’m just saying!.

CBS Really? Massive? This is the way mass communication works in a country of about a billion to report on what a possible thousand people collect about nothing reasonable. Here is a headline for you. “CBS squanders opportunities to report on relevant news” Hey I’m just saying what about positive reporting for a change.

These people are anti-american facists. They seek to end the right to freedom of religion and want to turn it on it’s head into freedom from religion. These are the same self appointed facists who would take away your gun rights. What rights will they try to eliminate next?

“THERE IS NO GOD! AND I HATE HIM!”

Sad.

I thought the same.

Leave it to CBS, The “Shame-Free” Network.

why such the hate on atheists? no one is saying you can’t have your religion…it’s our choice to not have a religion..get over it

No one hates atheists? Have you taken even a glance at the comments on this page?

“what art, what good works?”

Star Trek.

lemme guess ,your a catholic priest?

http://www.kiva.org/team/atheists,check this out and remember, the anglican and catholic church is responsible for many programs of genocide,through history, like the deaths of so many native children in the Indian residential schools in Canada for example, as well as laundering money for the mob, I could go on, religion doesn’t make you good.

you sound like you may be in hell my friend, if you were an atheist you would be much less hatefull ,peace

atheists’ are free and joyous people ,because they are honest and marvel at the wonder of the universe ,they may not have all the answers but they’re certainly not going to be shackled with whack unsubstantiated dogma,peace

written by men who seek to control and wish you to be dependent on them

you sound like an angry intolerant christian, we think of you as poor brainwashed children ,we only want to help,come to the rally ,you may have fun?

I’m an atheist, I love liberty freedom and guns, I hope you will always be able to practice your religion.

if there is no god, how could you hate him?

Brian
John 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

Atheists are all doubting Thomases you have to be shown before you will believe and then your feeble minds come with excuses to try against.

Revelations 13:8 .Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Listen so that you might hear.
The beast is lucifer his number is 666.
You find the beasts’ number by adding 9 (satans number)
A=9,B=C etc. lucifer= 666
3=6=9 (satans number)
The first 36 digits in the numerological order 1+2+3….+35+36=666
Yes I do know the lawless one (some say antichrist which is not scriptural)
It is through the Lord God Jesus Christs’ Holy Spirit you receive wisdom to know this.
Atheists are being readied to receive this mark.
This knowledge has been sealed until the last days which are now.
The atheists are fullfilling a prophecy that says in the last days apostasy(turning from the truth).
The Christians love all people because we are all Gods’ children but to be Sons of God you must have faith and believe in the one God sent to redeem your sins and through faith this shall be.
These are the last days.
This is the last generation.
The “Day of the Lord” is rapidly approaching.
I am here to show you the proof you have asked.
It is and always will be mans decision to be saved.
The truth is the truth!
You or any atheists’ disbelieve will not change this.
Peace be unto you

every generation seems to think that the end is near and all are disappointed,there are several passages of the bible itself that indicate that it should not be taken literally, corinthians 3:6 says pf the new covenant, “the letter kills but the spirit gives life.” corinthians 9:9-12 says that one of the laws of moses is figurative,not literal,Galatians 4:24 says the story of abraham is an allegory.There are failed prophecy in the bible such as, Ezekiel said that Egypt would be made uninhabited wasteland for 40 years(29:19-20) and nebuchadrezzar would plunder it . neither happened, the bible also says you should kill your child if they strike you,Exod. 21:15 , if you work on the sabbath you should be put to death,Exod. 35:2-3, if you curse you should be stoned to death,Lev. 24:14-15, happiness is smashing children off the rocks, Ps. 137:9, , this book was written by me for men to control them with fear, I could go on and on, but I won’t, peace

Atheists are very religious people. Their belief is atheism. Some may even die for it.

Those people who do not believe in God never opened up to him so that he could enter their lives. Not every church truly represents God’s teachings. There are many false prophets, thanks to Satan.

God won’t tap atheists on the shoulder saying, “Here I am.” If they ask, he will answer. He won’t use words in English or any other language.

When atheists ask he will begin working in their lives. Then they will SEE! He may create ‘miracles’ in their lives. Miracles are positive events that can’t be explained logically by any means. Some are so small, they may go unnoticed until later. When they occur, they will scratch their heads saying, “It’s impossible. How could that happen?” After another one, it will hit them that it was God.

The earth is ruled by Satan. All need to learn how he came to be ruler. He is the reason for all the bad things that happen around us every day. God has given us free will which means we have choices. We can follow Satan or God. It’s our choice.

Satan is always tempting us to follow him. I’m afraid atheists are being led astray by Satan without knowing it. They say they have no God or religion. Satan is their God and religion.

He runs around in disguise posing as the many descriptions mentioned here. That wonderful free feeling atheists say isn’t real. They have been caught in his web.

This is dangerous, not only for themselves, but for our country. God only gives us leaders that we deserve. If we follow Satan, we deserve bad leaders. Our country is failing. We need to look at ourselves for why it is failing. Could it be Satan and his earthly followers right here in the United States?

God always welcomes those who ask even if they have led a life previously encouraged by Satan. Atheists need a good dose of the truth. The only way to find the truth is ask God for it. Ask God for direction and see what happens. They have to be sincere. If not, they will not hear from him.

that’s a whack medieval view point, humans alone are responsible for there own choices, there is no nefarious force trying to lure you to hell,try to apply logic and objectivity to life, that is where salvation is found.

I just love to see people wasting time on something they know it’s a waste of time. I find it funny!

Wow, spending almost a whole lifetime fighting against something you believe doesn’t exist. That’s smart.

What is an atheist construction of morality that does not piggyback off the Judeo-Christian one?

Everything must be proven, or accepted as such. To say it is redundant is to assume affirmation. Absent proof, faith is the only option.

“But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.”

Thomas Jefferson.

I am a devout Catholic and I dont hate atheists. And I do not know any Christian that hates atheists.

I am an Atheist from Europa!
1. I musst say, America has a stpid christian Presidents! America need Atheist
2. for Politic, and We don,t have War in a Future!

Same here Dr. Bill

Dear friend

The Bible is the truth what you are saying has been interpreted the wrong way.
You have got to be filled with the Holy Spirit to discern what the words are saying.
Do you doubt the birth of our Lord God Jesus Christ?
There have been many more blessed than me that have
dreamt of living in our age, the “Day of the Lord”
But sadly the veil of lies and delusion is being spread to where if possible even the elect would be deceived.
This IS NOT possible.
WHEN I TELL YOU THE BEAST IS 666 YOU CAN FIND HIS NUMBER.
I cannot tell you who the antichrist (lawless one)is for even though I know it has to come from wisdom of the Holy Spirit.
The lawless one will reveal himself very soon this is the way he will be known.
Every generation before us had not the first prophecy fullfilled to begin the clock of the Last Days.
Israel became a Jewish state in 1948.
!967 Israel won the war against the Arabian Countries including Egypt.
The 6 day war or the Arab-Isreal war gave back to Israel East Jerusalem and the Sinai Desert in Egypt and also Gasa and West Bank etc.
What I am saying is when the armies of Irael won back Jerusalem this started the countdown to the “Day of the Lord.
I don’t want you to be deceived Brian.
We all must have the precious name of our saviour our Lord God Jesus Christ on our lips lest we be deceived to accepting dark for light.
This is the Truth.
We have the “false prophet” Yes I know who he is.
We have the lawless one. Yes I know who he is.
All we like is the beast and he will appear around the time of 12/21/12.
This date was never set for the end of the world but for a new ruler of the world satan.
Man loses his rule of the world on this day.
SO truly you can say it is the last day of man.
Pray to the Heavenly Father talk to Him ask Him questions. He loves you and if you come to Him with humbleness and of pure heart and call His name “JESUS” He is just to do as He says and save you and fill you with His precious Holy Spirit so that you may grow and mature into what the Father wants you to be for Him not what the world(satan) wants you to be.

Peace be unto you

, there is no nefarious force trying to lure you to hell,

Brian
Tell that to the devil(the accuser) that stands infront of the Father and tries to convince Him how ungodly you are.
Day and nigfht trying to win you from the Fathers grasp so it can take you to hell to be tormented as it is.
Call on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved.
You will never be the same and you will have all eternity to thank Him for loving you and bringing you home to be with Him forever in peace love happiness and joy.

Peace be unto you

For them to show their strength in nonbelievers is really fun, for now.

Lets see how much fun they think it is when they are dodging fire and hailstones from the sky.
I truly doubt they will be laughing.

Peace be unto you

poor deluded knotheads!!!

The lord thy god is PHYSICS and CHEMISTRY and all the PHYSICAL LAWS OF NATURE….bow down to them!! do NOT put false gods before them or feel their rath!!

oh and don’t forget to leave an offering on the way out!!

religions have never explained god……we are even…

Will obama be speaking at the event? I suspect that most of the participants will be obama supporters so he probably will.

What a Christian thing to say.

I prefer to get as acquainted as possible with the wonder, beauty, and happiness of this world and its people. It is truly something to cherish, and it’s the only one we get.

Albert Einstein did not believe in a personal god. When he referred to “God” and “religion,” he was referring to the wonder of the universe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein%27s_religious_views

Anyone reading the 1,000 comments on this article would be a fool to not think that atheists are hated. And atheists are not trying to interfere with anyone’s freedom of (and/or from) religion; we simply would like the same respect extended to us. That is one of the reasons for this rally.

Atheism is not a religion any more than not collecting stamps is a hobby.

And Einstein neither identified as a theist or an atheist, but he did not believe in a personal god. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein%27s_religious_views

*nor an atheist, not “or an atheist”

seems that someone has forgotten the rallies against segretation in his desperation to try to make fun of freethinkers and atheists. Tsk.

Those rallies were in OPPOSITION to segregation, not in support of a negative belief. Unless this rally is in opposition to theists, your analogy is flawed.

It will happen once, but not consistently. People of faith generally have a much more locked in belief (i.e. they’ll die for it). If an atheist can go to DC and turn it into another occupy tent party with plenty of drugs and sex, they’ll be game for it.

Hmm, annoying that they don’t let you reply to replies to replies…

…but really, people? We have every right to congregate with like-minded people, especially when there’s no regular get-together for us like Christians have every Sunday.

There has been plenty of legislation passed with unequivocally religious intentions in mind. What would our secularist founding fathers say? What would atheist Thomas Jefferson say, who could never get elected today since nobody seems to trust atheist legislators?

We don’t want to oppress anyone. We just don’t want any one belief system elevated over another. This isn’t a theocracy, and we were not, contrary to popular belief, founded as a Christian nation. Keeping religion out of politics is important for true freedom of religions… all religions… and freedom FROM religion, for the increasing proportion of us that is nonreligious.

“Christian”- If I’m wrong, I’ve lived a good life caring about the wonderful people in the beautiful world that I live in, sincerely believing it’s the only one we get. By most definitions of the Judeo-Christian God, that is sufficient for getting into heaven without belief. Your God values treating others with love more than he values a belief in Him. After all, wouldn’t you say that He gave me a questioning mind? And yet if I’m right… I become unconscious and rot in the ground. That’s it. And if both of us are wrong… well, maybe we should study other theologies to find out what will happen to us.

“siylencedogood”- Some atheists do try to actively “convert”… but in no greater proportions than Christians trying to convert non-Christians. You should re-read the intention of the rally. This is not a mass conversion or even a protest.

“Dan”- There is no absolute right and wrong because the notion of right and wrong has changed over time. It used to be OK to openly oppress women, black people, and gays. The first two have radically changed, and the last is changing quickly.

As for Stalin, etc… they didn’t do the terrible things they did because they were atheists. They HAPPENED to be atheists. In a lot of those cases, the state really was a sort of religion, anyway. Also… Hitler was a Roman Catholic; In 1941, he said “I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so.” By the way, in 1936 he also said “I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord’s work.” So by your logic, should we get rid of all Christian people in power because they might start killing people? (Source: http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/08/list_of_hitler_quotes_he_was_q.php)

Next issue: You equated atheism and evolution. Catholic and Anglican bishops even believe in evolution. It’s a scientific fact, as solid as gravity. You should do some reading on it; it’s fascinating stuff. And, while I wouldn’t agree with it as an atheist, there are plenty of ways God *could* have been involved in evolution. But evolution itself is an uncontroversial scientific fact.

As for only the strong surviving in a society, I think most atheists are against social Darwinism in that sense. In fact, that would be a very right-wing society in which the rich dominate the poor and the sick go unaided. The opposite of what most liberals want.

“The Truth”- Everything you just said is so nonsensical that I quite literally have a hard time telling it apart from something like a John Nash-esque schizophrenia or other psychotic disorder. You are one of the reasons why atheists shy even further away from religion.

The silliness though is that you are doing the same thing in claiming that it is a cruel joke. You don’t know. And really…all you know is what some other man told you. It is hypocritical for you to judge them, which you are doing.

Have a read of “Answering the New Atheism” By Drs Hahn & Wiker. It explains by reasoned mathematical odds that life on earth simply could not have come about by “chance”. This is so astronomically unlikely as to be “impossible”. There are none so blind as those who will not see.

I have an honest question. If Christians think atheists have no morals because they don’t follow the Bible… then where did they get their morals to tell apart the acceptable (honor your parents, etc) from the abominable (OK to oppress women, rape daughters, kill gays, etc)? There must be SOME other source of morality.

Attheist
You are wrong.
You are living ina world which satan and his devils are the ruler.
You are not able to see the Spirit world of our Father because you have not His Spirit inside you.
I have beenbaptized by our Fathers precious Holy Spirit when I called for Jesus to take my soul.
No church no preacher no one but me and Him.
He is faithful and rightious and will do as He says He will.
Once you receive the Holy Spirit and have Jesus Himself come in and sup with you you will see why all the Christians love the atheist enough to tell them of the Gospel and the Truth of Jesus Christ our Lord God and His Love.

Peace be unto you

funny that you wold use the phrase best “damned” rally ever, since it will be a rally of the damned.

no anti(insert your least favorite group here) bias is more prevalent these days than anticatholic bias, except perhaps antichristian bias. By the way, I cannot wait for that to be proven wrong!

if your going to use the name of a Christian Holy day, take the time to write out Christmas, not the anti-Christian xmas. I am fine with you, as an atheist, calling it winter/spring break, just never expect us Catholics and other Christians to call them such.

would you consider morality seful, or not?

would you consider morality useful, or not?

Ron, you didn’t even read a word I typed, did you? I just told you that the god of the bible (new testament) sends good people to hell if they don’t believe in Jesus. The god of the old testament didn’t use hell as a threat. The god of the Qur’an generally wants people to be nice to each other.

Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, think about this:
If you were born to different parents in a different country, would it be possible for you have a different religion? Why?

A little critical thinking won’t hurt you too badly.

Tuber;

Assuming you’re a Christian, think of it this way:
You believe that by accepting Christ as your savior, you can be forgiven of your sins and accepted into an eternity of bliss. If this is what you really believe, you want to “share the good news”, right?

As an atheist, I believe that religious dogma is suppressing our science and dumbing down our school system. I feel that people can live their lives without fear or superstition and should never take a moment for granted because they assume that this life doesn’t matter. This is why some atheists are as vocal as their religious counterparts; they want to share the good news too. Everyone’s trying to do a favor around here!

Chuck, Christians stole Christmas from the pagan winter solstice anyway, as they did with a great many other stories, Christianity is a mishmash of pagan,gnostic and ancient religions, all co-oped for your dogmatic brainwashing pleasure, peace

Because Christians are so tolerant to members of other religions. Give me a break. I’m so sick of Christians complaining about how badly they’re persecuted, simply because they’re no longer 99% of the population.

Well, they can rally if they want to, but what everyone needs to understand is what Thomas Jefferson and Dansbury Baptists really meant when they talked about the separation of church and state: READ VERY CAREFULLY this stmt from ROOM 219 of our US Capitol!
“The phrase “wall of separation between the church and the state” was originally coined by Thomas Jefferson in a letter to the Danbury Baptists on January 1, 1802. His purpose in this letter was to assuage the fears of the Danbury, Connecticut Baptists, and so he told them that this wall had been erected to protect them. The metaphor was used exclusively to keep the state out of the church’s business, not to keep the church out of the state’s business.”

There is no evidence for God. God does not come from any concept derived from reality we perceive. Adding ‘God’ as the explanation for the ‘mystery’ of the existence of the universe adds nothing because it leaves even more mystery. If anything can exist on its own without a cause, why can’t the universe?

Those of you who believe that an atheist has no reason to live are wrong. Most living things want to live because it is part of their nature. It is is about the life we actually do have, not about a mystical magical life that none of us have or ever will have. It is you believers in mysticism that have created these new supposedly superior reasons to live (only for the afterlife) from nothing – and it is that belief that makes it seem like there is no reason to live for an atheist. Your mystical beliefs have blinded you. Your mysticism has disconnected you from reality.

Real atheists have to be highly principled people. They and are not the murderers, rapists, etc. that others have posted here that they allegedly are. Real atheism is much more difficult in these times than falling in line and believing. On the other hand, atheism, as some ready, ill-thought excuse to justify despicable acts, just to get away from ‘rules’ cannot count as real atheism. That pseudo-atheism is just as bad as the religious excuses people give for despicable acts – much more common in history (even recent history).
(Oh, by the way, I’m about half way through reading the entire Hebrew/Christian Bible – and nothing in it has convinced me otherwise – in fact during my reading I went from somewhere between natural theism and agnosticism to a more honest atheism. More of you should read the whole Bible in its raw form, unvarnished by sermons and commentary. The Bible is definitely worth reading – but not as the source of infallible truth from the mouth of God.)

PS – I will bet anyone money that the mainstream media will widely cover this event, WHEREAS something like 100,000 people (some claim more) showed up for the March for Life (not religious, per se, but not “liberal”) and they really didn’t cover it at all this year. And usually they distort the coverage, to make it look like the puny number of pro-abortion folks is somehow equal to the pro-lifers… And by the way, there were even Atheists for Life at that rally!!

Try “several thousand.” Preferably without the juvenile name-calling.

https://www.facebook.com/events/216322945096765/

Never? You need to see more debates. I’ve heard plenty. Usually explicitly in the name of Jesus.

I am an atheist.

I hate neither God nor the idea of God.

I don’t hate people who believe in God.

I don’t even hate people who try to get me to believe in God–in their minds, they’re trying to save me from damnation. Even if they’re misguided, their hearts are in the right place–they’re putting themselves out there, trying to save a stranger from what they believe is a horrible fate. If a building was burning and there were people inside who didn’t know it, wouldn’t you try to warn them?

In general, I don’t have a problem with any religion. I do have a problem with laws that enforce religion, but I don’t see a lot of such laws in this country. I do find it mildly annoying that our money endorses a belief in God, but a lot of people would be horrified if that was removed from our money. I can live with mild, occasional annoyance if it saves a lot of people from panicking. It’s just not that big a deal to me.

Jesus was against the death penalty (let he who is without sin cast the first stone), fed the poor, encouraged tolerance, taught people to turn the other cheek, helped people who were down and out, healed the sick for free (free health care) and said it’s better to love your neighbor than make war. My friend, that’s about as liberal as one can be. It’s obvious that Jesus was a liberal.

“But when you see one of your family or friends with a newborn baby, or other ittle children, don’t you see something pricelessly valuable?”

Yes, of course we (atheists) do. My question to you is: When you see one of your family or friends with a newborn baby, or other ittle children, do you look at the baby and say to yourself, “If there were no God, that baby would be worthless”? Because that doesn’t even make sense. People can love life, feel awe at its precious majesty, and value it as the best thing in the universe–all without believing in God.

In fact, it seems to me that an atheist would value a baby’s life more than a Christian, because most Christians believe that if a baby dies it goes to heaven where it lives for eternity with God, and atheists don’t believe that.

There IS a giant poodle orbiting Saturn.
Well, given enough time, there WILL BE.

Christianity DOES NOT preach that Zeus does not exist.
Christianity acknowledges all manner of gods…

They are just trying to make each other feel better about burning in Hell forever
Isaiah 5:14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.

YES.. You can not see NOTHING and NOTHING is eternal as is the afterlife. That doesn’t mean that the afterlife is a sentient state. Everything else in this universe is ENERGY IN FLUX. What isn’t energy in flux is just NOTHING ! AND ‘NOTHING’ IS ETERNAL. ENERGY and NOTHING is all that is eternal. Thousands of religions claim theirs is the ONLY GOD. Statistically, that means they’re ALL WRONG !

why did yahoo delete the atheist billboard story???

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