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Mars Lost: NASA Cutting Mission To Red Planet

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In this handout image supplied by the European Space Agency (ESA) on July 16, 2008, The Echus Chasma, one of the largest water source regions on Mars, is pictured from ESA's Mars Express. (credit: ESA via Getty Images)

In this handout image supplied by the European Space Agency (ESA) on July 16, 2008, The Echus Chasma, one of the largest water source regions on Mars, is pictured from ESA’s Mars Express. (credit: ESA via Getty Images)

WASHINGTON (CBSDC/AP) — Scientists say NASA is about to propose major cuts in its exploration of other planets, especially Mars. And NASA’s former science chief is calling it irrational.

With limited money for science and an over-budget new space telescope, the space agency essentially had to make a choice in where it wanted to explore: the neighboring planet or the far-off cosmos.

Mars lost.

Two scientists who were briefed on the 2013 NASA budget that will be released next week said the space agency is eliminating two proposed joint missions with Europeans to explore Mars in 2016 and 2018. NASA had agreed to pay $1.4 billion for those missions. Some Mars missions will continue, but the fate of future flights is unclear, including the much-sought flight to return rocks from the red planet.

The two scientists, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the budget, said the cuts to the Mars missions are part of a proposed reduction of about $300 million in NASA’s $1.5 billion planetary science budget. More than $200 million in those cuts are in the Mars program, they said. The current Mars budget is $581.7 million.

“To me, it’s totally irrational and unjustified,” said Edward Weiler, who until September was NASA’s associate administrator for science. “We are the only country on this planet that has the demonstrated ability to land on another planet, namely Mars. It is a national prestige issue.”

Weiler said he quit last year because he was tired of fighting to save Mars from the budget knife. He said he fought successfully to keep major cuts from Mars in the current budget but has no firsthand knowledge of the 2013 budget proposal.

Mars “has got public appeal, it’s got scientific blessings from the National Academy,” Weiler said in a phone interview from Florida. “Why would you go after it? And it fulfills the president’s space policy to encourage more foreign collaboration.”

Two years ago, President Barack Obama said his ultimate goal was to send astronauts to Mars.

NASA spokesman David Weaver said that, just like the rest of the federal government, the space agency has to make “tough choices … and live within our means.”

To do so, Weaver said in an email, “NASA is reassessing its current Mars exploration initiatives to maximize what can be achieved.”

Weaver said the United States is the only country to land on Mars and has a car-sized rover on its way to the planet.

One of the big problems for NASA’s science budget is the replacement for the wildly successful Hubble Space Telescope. The James Webb Space Telescope, which would be about 100 times more powerful and would gaze farther into the universe than ever before, is now supposed to cost around $8 billion. It was originally estimated to cost $3.5 billion.

The other big part of NASA science spending — Earth sciences — is not being cut, the two scientists said.

The cut comes in the same week President Obama hosted the Second Annual White House Science Fair, touting the advancements of science and technology students.

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  • Ima SickOfLibs

    The president says alot of things and then continues his marxist agenda. Not worry though, the independant voter didn’t seem to care about this trait back in 2008, so deal with it until the voter wises up.

  • EZ Money

    Due to fiscal constraints, the DoD can no longer fight two wars and now NASA cannot explore “the neighboring planet or the far-off cosmos.” But we can squander half a billion on Solyndra and even more on other failed alternative energy companies. No wonder we’re in an unprecedented fiscal crisis. I think about just the taxes I’ve paid (and will pay) in my lifetime and how my lifetime taxes are just a fraction of a percent in government waste. We need to get serious about our federal budget by eliminating the deficit and paying off the national debt.

  • Fanny Forbes Franklen

    It’s more important to go start more illegal wars and kill more men, women and children that have never done a thing to us. Remember what Superman said, “Truth, justice AND the American way”. Pointing out that the American way is separate from truth and justice. C’mon and get patriotic and spend your great grandchildren’s future on making arms dealers rich, killing millions and making burnt out psychopaths that come home and become cops.

    —————– http://911essentials.com

  • Endless September

    Really? You’re fired up about 300 million dollars a year when other agencies in the Gov. misuses that much in a day? How much does TSA cost us a year? Wars on drugs? Oil subsidies? Tax fraud? With all of that around us, you get fired up about $300 million from NASA?

  • Jess

    Where President Kennedy said “we choose to go to the moon,” Barack Obama says we choose to stay home and pass out free condoms. My, how the once mighty America has fallen.

  • Dan Meyer

    This would be the same federal budget that hasn’t been passed in the past 1000 days???? Can’t get serious about something they won’t even DO. It’s their JOB to do the federal budget. Come this November fire any political person who failed to do their JOB. Congress… right on up to the President! Vote em OUT!

  • David B

    Much better for dems to spend that money on buying votes! Remember liberal hyperbole is always a winner in any argument! Obama deficit spends a yearly NASA budget every 3 days! NASA has a yealy publication call Spinoff! Over 45,000! The US space program ispinoffs are responsible for over half of our GDP for the cost of 1/2 of 1% of GDP!

  • Mike Hunt

    Well blow me down.

  • ScottJ

    Space exploration creates jobs and people with jobs are more suited to helping the homeless than people without jobs

  • William

    Again the American people and the Obama administration refuse to allow future technologies to flourish.

    Between NASA and the military we have GPS, microwaves, aluminium foil, plastic, ceramic, computers, internet,,,and the list goes on FOREVER.

    The may not have invented them but they damn sure accelerated thier development.

  • ScottJ

    Amen. I read a great article a short while back in which the author made the point that he wasn’t concerned about the damage one bad president could do, because it could all be undone. But he was terrified about the overwhelming number of mo-rons that would vote for that obviously unqualified president in the first place.

  • Patel Mattel

    Are they slashing NASA’s main mission budget, Muslim outreach, also?

  • ScottJ

    Man what I would give to kick you out of this fine country myself.

  • ScottJ

    Please look up the profit on a barrel of oil vs. the taxes before you ever say anything else about oil subsidies.

  • ScottJ

    Thank you. You’d be amazed at how many people are too stupid to understand this.

  • ScottJ

    ….I assume by American people you mean the idiotic ones that voted for obama right?

  • JW

    It’s that hope and change thing. Yes We Can!!!! (ruin the country)

  • Endless September

    ??? Having worked in Dubai for a spell (4 months) I’ve seen first hand the amount of money it takes to keep oil prices at the level we do. Sure there is profit in oil, but a lot of that profit comes from our Government putting money directly into the pockets of certain individuals. So I’ll echo my last comment unless you’d like to direct me to something that contradicts anything I’ve said.

  • Marty

    This is all great but how does it help the Pittsburgh Pirates get over .500 for the first time since 1992?

  • Bob Norton

    Half a billion dollars would buy 1/8 of a useless B2 bomber.

  • Eyeswideopen

    One area that NASA could easily cut is their expenditures in the area of so called climate change. If ever there was a fraud, it is CAGW and your government is in bed with all of the crooks in the UN supporting it.

  • NsR

    Spoken like a true inbred communist loving degenerate. It’s always low IQ morons that think solving complex human problems with violence is the correct answer or stifling speech or thought s their domain. You’re a real piece of work. Seek help before you go postal.

  • Mike

    Evil men and evil doings keeps the human race from exploring our destiny in space…but until we are a species that can live in peace and respect all living things we are doing the universe a favor by remaining on our own little piece of stone least we ruin more of God’s creation.

  • Smedley Butler

  • Ray

    Obama has just submitted a ten year budget that will put America 26 TRILLION dollars in debt. You can bet that any and all programs, including taking care of Vets, is going to be fully funded. Any and all programs that put more Americans betrothed and dependent upon and under control of the Nanny Government will always be funded by Obama.
    Obama has already killed America’s hard earned leadership as a Manned Space Fairing Nation, and is now working on killing the Space Program completely. He knows he can count oh hysterical nimrods who lack vision and the concept of how exploration serves America and the world. He knows that you types don’t get the facts, such as that even during the heyday of the Apollo Program, NASA stayed under 5% of the National budget.
    That is one heck of bargain in my book, and far more important then forcing us to pay for abortions.

  • RussRamey6

    I would rather fund NASA than all the other worthless government vote buying / market warping schemes, our military preparedness is also a very high priority as some Americans are going to find out in the immediate future.
    The entitlement mentality of “free” stuff will drop our republic in the dust bin of history just like Rome, Britain, etc. We have lost out outward focus…Mars would give us a goal as a national mission…education, jobs, focus, and exploration once again…we are stale and dry!

  • Jeff Moss

    Well, clearly they made the right decision. The space telescope is far more important than a joy ride to Mars.

  • wxrealist

    “The other big part of NASA science spending — Earth sciences — is not being cut, the two scientists said.”

    The new upcoming administration should fire James Hansen, Gavin Schmidt, and all their climate groupthink wackos that have embedded themselves in the G.I.S.S. department of NASA.

  • Snidely

    Obama has already told NASA it’s mission is Muslim outreach. Why are they even thinking of spending money on space exploration? What does that have to do with promoting the established state religion of Islam?

  • Smedley Butler

    There is no honor in killing and dying for foreign offshore banks or killing innocent people that have done nothing to you. But the brainwashed think it’s manly to use depleted uranium weapons on mud huts, against people who have no tanks, jets, helicopters or bankers printing fiat currency until the cows come home. I thought war was when both side had real weapons. Again, how manly to mow down people from a few miles away and then laugh about it.

  • WRTolkas

    You all got it wrong. Obummer was cutting NASA’s budget for the proposed mission to send an American family of four safely to Mars, Pennsylvania, and return them to Washington D.C. in a Chevy Volt.

  • Rick Gamache

    Amen. A basic precept lost. I guess we shouldn’t do anything until everyone is equal.

  • Tinfoilhat

    I remember back in the early 70′s I was out in LA when the SLA was robbing banks with Patty Herst and demanding that the state feed the poor people. They would line up for their government cheese and butter all the while saying “My kids got’s to eat” as if it were all our fault they had hungry kids. One lady actually said “were sending men to the moon and my kids are starving.

    It’s 40 years later, we’re all feeding the poor and we have no space program left. What has changed other than there are more poor people who want more from us than ever? And our once wonderful space program that was an inspiration for us and the world is gone forever. And they just want more. Takers all of them. Call me what you will but I’d take inspiration over your misery every time.

  • Amer

    All of the mars missions that supposedly “failed” were simply turned into secret missions. Google for mars conspiracies- there are artifacts and even vegetation growing on mars resembling banyan trees.

  • Ifcabob

    Remember in the 60s and early 70s during the Apollo moon missions when a small minority of people griped at the time about spending money in space when there were “starving” Americans. We all laughed at these pre-occupy hippy freaks of the day. Then Lyndon Johnson got to implement his “Great Society”, “Social Justice”, “Redistributed Wealth” programs and these hippy freaks ended up getting the last laugh. Instead of having all Americans paying taxes to do big national projects like the Space Program and the Interstate Highway system, we decided to put half of all these Americans on the free money dole to be paid by the other half of hard working Americans. Now, with half of the people supporting the other half, there is no more money left for big and great national projects. Blame FDR, LBJ and the rest of the socialist democrat party that is “progressively” destroying this great country – just like they always wanted!

  • mikedelta12

    Obama is not the problem, merely a symptom. An uninformed electorate is the problem.

  • Homey D Clown

    Go visit your local County soc. services office on any day. You will find dozens of ellegal eliens lined up in 2-hour wait lines waiting for a free food stammp card with at LEAST $200 per month of free food. And most of them have $100 Nikes, iphones, and all are dressed very nicely. I was there today at the County offices, and saw this with my own eyes, and could not believe it. No WONDER there are so many ellegals here; they get $200-400 per month in free food within 7 days! $300 million per DAY is what I would guess we are giving away to elllegals.

  • slarty bartfast

    NASA’s yearly budget is spent by Medicare every 30 seconds. NASA is, and always has been, a bargain.

  • Gee Whiz Obama Truly Sucks

    Nothing wrong with libs, only with a president who is more lib than most socialists!

  • Dave Lucas

    What’s funny is how we all thought that by now, we’d have colonized places like Mars!
    Remember Jefferson airplane’s Blows Against The Empire of 1970 – which predicted that in 1990 Hippies would “Occupy” a spaceship built by the government, in order to emigrate throughout the universe?
    People really believed it was possible! And judging by the progress that had already been made in the space program, it was…. but we abandoned the dream!

  • Gee Whiz Obama Truly Sucks

    LMAO! I LOVE IT! You’re absolutely right!! It doesn’t do a lick of good to help the Pirates.

    And you’ve just explained in no uncertain terms why Obama got elected in the first place. Nobody cared.

    And they still don’t.

    But the more important question is what don’t they care about? Is it what happens next, or is it what JA s s chooses to run for the electoral majority and how well he can lie to the American people.

    The best liar always wins. And the majority of us are just peeved that they pre-empted our favorite shows to bring us non-stop coverage of the elections.

  • Doug O

    Yes, let’s just spend our money for people to stay at home and watch Jerry Springer. Let’s not create high tech jobs and develope science and technologies that we have barely even thought of.

    Next time you use cordless tools, watch anything broadcast in satellite, wear atheletic shoes, drink filtered water and about 5000 other things you should thank NASA and the scientists & engineers who developed these things and many high tech companies because of the space race.

    Thank ARPA for you to even be on the internet.

  • Gee Whiz Obama Truly Sucks

    LOL

    Can’t build a car that runs on electric. Want to send people to Mars in a spacecraft that runs on something that will last that long.

    Can’t revisit the moon, ’cause we’ve been there, but eliminates the prospect of travelling to Mars.

    Thank God, that by the time man could get to Mars, we could have a new President that might help America to prosper and create new technology to send man to Mars even faster!!

  • The Bruce

    Didn’t you get the word, Jess? Two years ago Obama announced NASA’s new focus on Muslim outreach. I actually remember having to rewind the DVR to make sure I heard that one right.

  • Gee Whiz Obama Truly Sucks

    I guess that’s better than getting blown up, but maybe not better than getting blown.

  • The Bruce

    I can’t speak for William but, … OK I can… YES!!!

  • The Bruce

    I think we can reinvigorate the Mars initiative and do it on the cheap at the same time…

    We can retrofit a Chevy Volt with JATO thrusters, place in top of a rocket booster, and launch Obama into space.

    To boldly go where no Teleprompter has gone before…

  • The Clintidote

    Lots of re-elect-payoff taxpayer loot for the ghetto morons, though.

  • Gee Whiz Obama Truly Sucks

    In the 60′s through the 90′s space was a frontier that everybody was willing to pay for. Today, we have the conservatives that are interested in lining their pockets, and the liberals that are interested in finding out more about that proverbial free lunch (and breakfast, and dinner, and house, and etc).

    In the 60′s through the 90′s, people paid their fair share and hoped to have enough left over to retire on someday. People were thrilled to see their tax dollars used for neat cool things like space exploration — not wasted on stupid wars, bogus scientific evidence of man-made climate change, etc.

    Today, we’re more interested in political correctness and more willing to spend a trillion dollars on a stupid war than we are in nuking the opposing forces and spending the money on space exploration. We forget that much of the technology that gave rise to our smartphones, to our computers, etc., originated in the space program.

    And because we forget, we are doomed to cede our dominance to the next generation of people — be they in America, China, Russia, Japan, Mexico, Philippines — who are willing to go the extra mile to the moon, to Mars, to Pluto, and beyond, simply because its there and needs to be done.

  • Gee Whiz Obama Truly Sucks

    LMFAO!! 10 points to the winner of the thread!!

  • jimonthebeach

    As longf as Obama-lite runs NASA, our astronauts won’t be able to travel around the corner, let alone to Mars.

    “Two years ago, President Barack Obama said his ultimate goal was to send astronauts to Mars.” Oh yeah, but that was before someone told him there are no welfare recipients or Democrats on Mars.

  • edw987

    Obama has destroyed the country. It’s that simple.

  • Stephen Friedland

    Tribal government can’t grok Space travel.

  • Jim W

    The Propagander in Chief obviously misread his teleprompter. He was supposed to say “Shuttle ready projects”.
    Yet four more wasted years, when we should be out to the Asteroid belt by now given it has been 40 years since the last Apollo mission. We could have bought Mars for the cost of a single part of the stimulus package this administration has wasted.

  • Benjamin Golan

    YOU got what you voted for people! The demonicrats & the false messiah warned you, and you still voted for Soros’ puppet. Bravo!

  • Ryan

    THE ONE THING the government can do that the private sector cannot is space exploration and it is the only thing that brings all people across the political spectrum together. So we as American’s are no longer going to forge ahead at the forefront of space exploration? Imagine if Russia got to the moon first, would America be the same? Space exploration is important people.

    This country is going down so fast and barely any of you will even be able to handle it. Any of you actually think you could survive without electricity? I doubt it…
    http://www.postapocalypticsurvival.com/2011/10/post-apocalyptic-survival.html

  • Pavlos Xorofas

    Send Obama to Mars. Quickly.

  • Jeff

    You are correct!

  • jeff

    Yes anyone that voted for oama is STUPID!

  • Unclesmrgol Dragon

    The James Webb telescope only costs 16 Solyndras. I’m wondering why the Obama Administration can’t find the money — given that they seem to be able to find money for nearly everything else…

  • CUTNASA

    Nasa is a waste of money. Private industry will do a better, more efficient job than a giant, expensive government space agency. When there’s a reason to go to mars, let me know. Nasa jobs aren’t a good enough reason because nasa is paid by the tax payers.

  • Willy B

    I was downtown and saw what I presume was a homeless veteran and a derelict. He was wearing a green field jacket and sleeping under a walkway in the middle of the day.

    I am no saint, so I did not help him, but I was sure a saintly liberal would stop and help him. Maybe a knowitall, bigmouth liberal would take this poor smelly man him into their home. Hundreds of people walked by while I watched. None of them stopped. Maybe liberals don’t walk the walk.

  • Jim P

    all have missed the bigger picture – - – there is gold on the moon, gold in a radioactive version of Hydrogen – - with 2 extra neutrons – - – - this is what is needed to fusion work. Not enough is present on earth – - – - Why do you think the Chinese are building a space program, they have limited Coal left. No oil. and they need energy – - – and fearful of being dependent upon foreign sources that can be stopped.

    This is clean energy – - no radioactive waste, No chance of reactor melt down. Turn off the magnetic containment field and reaction shuts down – - no radioactive decay or fallout possible – -

    I know many hate Bush – - – Bush wanted to go to the moon for clean abundance energy – - – - there was a reason. – - – - there is more than enough to provide a huge reduction in the usage of Oil. – - – image USA becoming energy independent.

    Image that USA has a source of energy that can be sold to other countries – - – the technology and the energy source from the moon.

    Image in 10 to 20 years. fusion reactions instead of fission reactions. And no radioactive waste, – - no risk of reactor melt downs – - –

    and Obama wanted to go to Mars for what reason? What would we gain? The problem with mars is the length of the trip for humans – - and the needed O2 and food. – - – - – What was Obama really doing? – - trying to show a difference between him and Bush – - to upstage Bush – - – - . And totally miss the real reason that Bush wanted to go to the Moon, we need something that is all over the surface of the moon. – - – - – that means energy independence and actually selling energy to other countries – - – bring that energy money back home

  • Kip Noxzema

    Yes, it’s everything to do with Libs. They’re the ones pushing him to move the country even farther Left. Imagine what they will do together if he is re-elected. Goodbye America.

  • Kip Noxzema

    State your point, please. Don’t be a drive-by Lib poster.

  • Kip Noxzema

    You’re getting sand in your ears by sticking your head in it.

  • Kip Noxzema

    Heh heh. And they can roast their hot dogs by the fire, too.

  • Natural_philosopher

    Can’t cut a dime form GISS and the Global Warming Baloney could we? That propaganda exercise will be fully funded.

  • Jim P

    agreed

  • bushz_war

    Now just excise the entire cancer that is N@ssA.

  • MuneShadowe

    So welfare leaches that give birth to Parasites and corporate goons who rip off the taxpayers get precedence over the people who matter the most;
    The ones who pay the bills.
    Our future on the auction block.

  • B Lee Bob

    I think something is missing here in our thinking. NASA doesn’t have to do this. Private firms like Space X are rapidly developing the technology that will allow us to go to Mars without government involvment. Yes it will cost billions, but we have some billionairs. As it becomes profitable it can be financed by private stockholders. Read: The Case For Mars by Dr. Robert Zubrin Google The Mars Society. The problem as I see it is likely to be government interference rather than lack of funding.

  • Reality Check

    Obama strikes again.

    Obama promised Hope and Change. But all he delivers is devastating gotchas.

    The change was kill the moon program and the manned space program.

    The hope is we are going to the Mars.

    The gotcha is a year later Obama kills the Mars program too.

    How is that hope and change working for everyone.

  • Blammo

    See there. Homey is living proof that money should be spent on edjummikashin.

  • Ford Prefect

    Oh yes! If only we had never sent Armstrong and Buz to the moon. I’m sure we’d have no homeless veterans today. Everyone would be living in peace and harmony. israel and Palestine would love each other. Unemployment would be non-existant. Yes, why I doubt we’d have illegal aliens if only we hadn’t waisted all that money so long ago. Still…….

  • Michael

    Heinlein FTW!

  • Just4thefax

    Fact: When I was cut from space program due to end of Shuttle and cancellation of Constellation. I left behind many friends that luck had them working on Orion Mars program. Looks like sooner than later Obama will axe them too! We all need professional community organizers for the unemployed to follow. I love this hope and change!!!

  • Michael

    Back in the day, when the New World was just discovered, the poor could become colonists.

  • jlheif

    we are rapidly approaching a time when “lifeboat” rules will apply throw the useless overboard. if you can’t row your a parasite. a hard and pitiless fact.

  • ken

    jobs?? oh yeah…you mean gubbamint jobs or jobs funded by taxpayers…just what we need….oh yeah..and we need a replacement for Tang..

  • mike

    we’re spending $1.6 Billion this year on free cell phones for the poor. why? let’s start cutting this waste of our dolars!!

  • John Seaman

    I’m a combat veteran and a life member of the VFW. I must have missed the veterans living on the streets and under bridges. I’ll have to go look again.

  • rowley

    TACKY THEME PARK
    Obama’s dream of Change for NASA.
    Nasa Houston did not get one of the retired space shuttles.
    Classless Cheapo Obama has degraded it into a Tacky Theme Park.
    Sad end to the JFK impossible Dream come true.
    OBAMAS GREAT GOAL TO UNLIMITED SLEAZY SEX ; EVERY POOR WOMAN’S REPRODUCTIVE ORGANS RIPPED OUT SO SHE WONT MAKE MORE POOR BABIES.
    GREAT EMANCIPATOR of the POOR; Kill all Poor Class before they can breath alone.

  • John Harnes

    Wake up:
    This isn’t cutting the NASA budget. It’s reallocating the funds from pace exploration to Global Warming, and other priorities of the current administration. The money spent on exploration came back into our economy through massive increases in technology. This administration has a better idea – not!

    You would expect the author of this story to say if the actual NASA budget is being cut, or the cuts for space exploration being used in NaSA for these other unpopular programs.

  • judgment_day

    Except their drones are now pointed at our heads.

  • http://www.ksbulldogs.com Patriot42

    Those that feel the government must have a safety net for every person in the USA and once they mustered enough voters to elect a president we have become a nation unwilling to support NASA so we can always say at one time we led the world in science. We now will begin our decline.

  • Tom Cody

    Wouldn’t it be great if NASA and other scientific endeavors received the money needed to advance Humanity and welfare sucking pigs had to work for a living?

  • http://www.ksbulldogs.com Patriot42

    I get your point, give me the money that they are now giving to the military so you can buy some more meth.

  • Byron Allen

    Obama spent $800B on stimulus that didn’t. The entire NASA budget is $17.3. We could have upped that to $25B, created technologies and pushed science instead throwing it away. The only place the US can excel is science but Obama, Charles Bolton and Lauri Garver are killing that.

  • Byron Allen

    Yes, Lauri Garver worked for Hillary. Where is the shuttle going now? A parking lot in NYC next to a pizza place? The fact that we are paying Russia for rides to space station is criminal. The COnstellation program was cancelled because of pure politics and nothing else. It is obvious that Bolton and Garver are trying to shut JSC and MSFC as they are in states that are voting against Obama. It is incredible that NASA has become a political tool of the Obama administration.

  • Byron Allen

    No they are not developing anything without the government paying for it. Both Orbital and SPACEX are receiving huge payments from NASA and then NASA gets to buy the rides also. The difference is that NASA is paying but not driving requirements. Private industry has always supplied the vehicles for space flight but now, the designs are not subject to review.

  • Byron Allen

    Normaly I would agree, but in this case, SPACEX, ORBITAL and Sierra Nevada are being funded by NASA through Space Act agreements. If they succeed , NASA will then be allowed to buy seats from those companies. In all cases, it is a terrible deal for the taxpayer besides the fact that the safety and design of these ” commercial” rockets are in real question. Spacex has multiple solid rockets strapped around a liquid which is like building a bomb…..Sierra has a flying homebuilt on the top of a rocket which is extremely unstable when subject to winds at altitude. Cancellation of Constellation was a huge mistake and was pure politics by Bolton and Garver. They knew that TExas and Alabama is never voting for them so they are now using NASA as a political tool to funnel money to their friends. The only science Garver knows is Political science.

  • Publius

    Of course private companies can conduct space exploration – NASA builds virtually nothing, relying on private industry to build and conduct such missions.

    What private industry cannot do is structure these missions with an ROI that is even moderately attractive.

    I have an idea: have the prez simply require aerospace and defense companies to pay for space exploration. If he can require insurance companies to pay for certain items, surely he can do this.

  • DMoney

    Wait, didn’t Obama say last year that he wants NASA to focus on sending a man to an asteroid by 2025, not Mars? At least thats what all the newspapers said.
    Funny how that is completely ignored in this piece.
    It doesn’t matter anyways. We should just let private industry do it for $50 million instead of letting NASA spend billions on it.

  • B Lee Bob

    Byron Allen, you’re exactly right. We may have to make an end run around Obama. Hopefully the election will change thins a bit.

  • betsp

    We can’t afford space exploration. We need to buy poor people iphones and data plans and all the rest. Can we send Obama to Mars?

  • http://www.ksbulldogs.com Patriot42

    Welcome to the decline of America. We reached the tipping point in 2008 when the takers out numbered the givers. Those voters that have their hands out out number the ones that pay the taxes.

  • 31337

    hi August
    Back in the 1960′s and 1970′s during the Moon missions for every dollar spent on the Apollo program sixteen dollars came back into the economy. While NASA usually is a giant sucking sound the mission to Mars is 1.) important to the economy of not only the USA but the world, 2.) important to mankind in genera for survival, possible colonization in however many years in the future and 3.) generate/improve new technologies what will eventually end up in the hands of consumers.

    Think bigger then yourself and understand the fundamental issues at hand.

  • Joe Dutra

    What if NASA had access to all of the money that Obama channeled to those failed green energy companies, owned by his buddies? We could establishing prison colonies on Mars for him and his cronies.

  • dav zee

    The mentally ill won’t be cured by a reduction in the NASA budget, or an increase in the NASA budget.

    It’s apples to oranges, …

    there will always be homeless people, it is a part of society…communism, democracy, theocracies…all have homeles, rich or poor gov’ts…
    z

  • Shooting Bull

    I have to applaud the government trying to control spending. However, I wish they would do a better job of prioritizing. I would rather see research funds would go to NASA rather than to some pablum puking professor studying to see if a snail darter farting in the water contributes to global warming.

  • Russ

    Be responsible for yourself.
    Elect a new president. This one failed.
    Stop buying China goods.
    Find a job.
    Get with the program. Let’s go to Mars.

  • !awakeblondie

    Thats because our tax money is better spent by beefing up Homeland Security to protect us from the terrorists that are hiding in every corner ( come on, you know you have seen them) and by adding 30,000 drones (FAA just approved) to the US skies in the next 5-8 years so that the American people can be watched, tracked, catalogued, hunted down and tazed or shot if they don’t like it. Oooops, I meant terrorists. Exploring space and learning is just a waste of money. I mean, who wouldn’t rather have their tax money spent on enslavement? I work hard for my money so that I can hand over 35% of it to be used in capturing men instead of giving them knowledge and freedom.

  • Bob A

    Its about time. Spending trillions on pointy headed academics trying to prove their evolutionary theology is a huge waste of money. Cut…Cut…Cut… Defense reaserch only!

  • Bob A

    Scott; You pay these people to do nothing!

  • http://algoa456.wordpress.com algoa456

    What a joke of a country. It can’t even put a man into space any more.

    Rather the money goes to the Black Panthers who stop whites from voting. America has lost control of itself.

  • Bob A

    Obama bankrupted us by paying off his communist union buddies! Socialists always run out of people to steal from. Then everyone but the party eliet live in poverty.

  • CleanFun

    What do you mean you want to take one of my ships and just keep sailing West? Madness! You’ll fall off the end of the world.

    WHAT!? Gold… New World… Wealth… VAST… Of course you have my leave to make a second trip. Here, take this royal fleet.

  • Bodie

    Let me quote Ben Rich who headed up Lockheed Skunk Works. Before his death he said “We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity” he also went on to say “anything you can imagine we already know how to do.”

  • Pat Fitzpatrick

    Earth Sciences is not being cut because its budget is already relatively small compared to space, and because its the most productive part of NASA. What many people don’t know is that NASA builds prototype satellites that later become templates for weather satellites. They’ve been doing this for decades and this process works extremely well.

    Meanwhile, a 3.5 billion dollar telescope now costs 9 billion. That is ridiculous and unsustainable. They have to cut cost in space science

  • Gregory Kay

    We can afford to slaughter people willy-nilly all over the world in endless wars; we can afford to sent billions in foreign aid overseas; we can afford to rack up trillions bailing out giant banks and corporations; we can afford to pay farmers not to grow crops; we can afford to continue supporting families who are now on their fourth generation that have never worked; we can afford to hand out benefits to millions who are in this country illegally; we can afford huge pay raises for Congress and endless strings of multi-million dollar vacations for Obama and his family…but we can’t afford science. For some reason, the best description of modern America is a journey involving “Hell” and “a handcart.”

  • Alex Dimitriades

    What precisely is a “Marxist” agenda?

    Oh wait, I’m sure you have no clue.

  • Nhoji Niknari

    B2 bombers kill flowers and harm children.

  • rex dart eskimo spy

    so the muslim outreach is in full swing? maybe we could ask those scientific supermen in iran to take us to mars.

  • zombierocket

    So, cut $500 Million from NASA but give 10 TRILLION to the banksters.

    Well, you mor*ns voted for idiots, you get what you deserve.

  • zombierocket

    Cut $500 million from NASA… but HAND AWAY $14 TRILLION to the banksters. Makes sense… NOT!

    You Americans deserve what you get: you keep electing short-sighted socialists, criminals, and crony capitalists to office while your eyes are glued on Dancing With The Stars. So so stupid, and so very tragic!

  • zombierocket

    >>Obama say last year that he wants NASA to focus on sending a man to an asteroid by 2025, not Mars? At least thats what all the newspapers said.
    Funny how that is completely ignored in this piece.

    The reason that is ignored is because it is so flippin’ stupid. We’re going to land humans on a pebble in 10 years while everyone else is building a moon base and Mars bases? Are you that foolish and empty headed?

  • Obama-is-a-Marxist

    Liberalism is a disease and conservmegolomaniacatism is the cure. If we didn’t have so many people dependent on the federal government there would be no need for the democRat party.
    The money the OWH (Occupy White House) spent on green energy would be more than enough to fund the Mars mission. This idiot and chief is so focused on his power and his ego (he’s a classic megolomaniac) and idiology to hell with anything else. God, I’ll be glad when he’s back community organizing in Chicago.

  • Obama-is-a-Marxist

    Could the powers that be please just send 0bammie to an ASS-teroid? He’s a hemorrhoid in America’s rearend.

  • Joel Gibbons

    A voyage to Mars is not feasible with today’s technology, and even if it was feasible it would at best be an empty public relations gesture. There is simply nothing on Mars to go there for. Even if Mars was just made of gold, to go there to get it and bring it back would cost $1 billion an ource.

    A recent news story, released just today, makes clear the technological infeasibility. It turns out that long periods in space cause a loss of vision in the astronauts. In some cases the loss is temporary, in the sense that after returning to Earth the vision gradually returns. But for a voyage as long as the trip to Mars however, even that would not be good enough. By the time the crew reached its parking or it around Mars, the crew would be blind.

    Man will never travel in space. We will some day exploit the planets; that is true. But we will not visit them in person. Our astronauts will be robots which can travel in the hostile environment without any harm, and carry out their mission when they get there. Mr. Kirk will be a robot.

  • Archie1954

    Don’t worry, exploration of Mars won’t stop. It will just be carried out by the EU, Russia or China or a consortium of all. Of course the US won’t be able to crow about how great they are once the first man on Mars sends greeting to the Earth in Russian.

  • James

    Next up for NASA, a mission to Uranus:

    http://bofadeez.blogspot.com/2011/01/whose-anus.html

    Ok, that was too easy!

  • TheTruth

    How about NASA gets back to actually exploring space, and leaving the Earth-based sciences to NOAA and the USGS?

  • Ryan

    http://www.postapocalypticsurvival.com/2012/02/post-apocalyptic-prediction.html

    Good luck America, as goes NASA so goes American dominance…

  • Simon_Jester

    By “ellegal” you mean “funny colored” and by “most of them have” you mean “I’m hallucinating,” right?

    Hint: do some math. You can look up the total cost of the food stamp program. Do a Google search. Divide by the number of days in a year. Those “food stammp” cards don’t cost $300 million a day for *everyone in the program,* let alone for “ellegals.”

    You’re just making up big numbers because you like blaming your problems on illegal immigrants, instead of on the people who decided it was a brilliant idea to lay off about one American worker in six and pocket the money that would have gone to paying them, then raid the pension fund by playing with the stock market.

    But hey, higher corporate profits for god-fearing CEOs, so it must be a good thing.

  • Simon_Jester

    I find myself mixed between agreeing and disagreeing.

    Even cheaper than “nuking the opposing forces” is just not starting random wars for the sake of random ideas about how to rule countries full of sand. There’s a lot of that in American policy in the Middle East, and has been for many years. Does anyone really think it was a good idea to invade Iraq and occupy it for ten years over a bunch of nonexistent WMD? Or to bring freedom to them? Because we sure freedomized the heck out of the place, what with all the bomb craters and guerilla warfare.

    For the cost of that we could have landed on Mars a dozen times over- and just left Iraq alone. We didn’t fight that war about political correctness- say what you will about George Bush, the man wasn’t exactly a champion of PC.

    A nitpick, though. You think manmade climate change is bogus? Tell it to the Northwest Passage. Men died looking for it centuries ago when it wasn’t there, because the ice was too solid. Now it *is* there, plain as day. The ice melted. Something must have made it melt, and if “we put enough smoke into the air to increase global CO2 levels by 50%” isn’t it, I have a hard time imagining what could be.

  • Simon_Jester

    No one else is building moon bases, let alone Mars bases. Except maybe China, and it’s going to take them ten years to do it.

    And do you know why? It’s not because of Obama and EVIL SOCIALISM. China is ruled by a bunch of literal Communists who cut their teeth under Chairman Mao himself, do you really think Obama is somehow more socialist than Mao’s bright young pupils who would get shot for doubting him?

    No, it’s because China is putting men to work, growing a base of factories and universities and engineering outfits that can get stuff done. The US is gutting all those things. In China, when the economy grows, the money goes into building factories and houses and infrastructure and educating the children. In the US, when the economy grows, the money goes into a billionaire’s pockets because his hedge fund manager snagged it all.

    We used to be able to get stuff done, back in the ’50s under Eisenhower and the ’60s under Kennedy and Johnson. We also used to have a top tax bracket of 60% to 90%.

    This is why, when Newt Gingrich tells me he wants a moon base by 2020, I don’t believe him. It’s not that the US couldn’t have a moon base in 2020 if it really wanted to. It’s that we couldn’t get it under President Gingrich, because he’d rubberstamp tax cuts, and spending cuts to balance the budget after the tax cuts, and then look around under the couch for loose change and realize there was simply *no money* left to pay for the moon program. Whoops!

    Because if Newt has to choose between tax cuts and promising us the moon, he’ll take the tax cuts every time.

    I wish I could vote for Eisenhower. He’d know how to get things back on track.

  • zombierocket

    You must be a Marxists. Marxists hate science.

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