NORFOLK, Va. (CBS Washington) — “Occupy Norfolk” is struggling to find an identity as some protesters laugh about what the goal of the movement is.

While the movement has taken the steps to set up a campsite and base of operations in Commercial Plaza– symbolically close in proximity to Bank of America and BB&T locations — they reportedly haven’t worked out the specifics of what they want to do.

WAVY-TV quotes several protesters who seemed less than sure of the details regarding how the movement will make an impact.

“Oh, I have no idea,” one participant reportedly said while laughing, after being asked how this sect of “Occupy” will reach its goals.

Jeffrey Musselman, one of the lead organizers for “Occupy Norfolk,” feels this characterization of their occupation is unfair.

“We’ve been here around the clock, working toward finding a common end goal,” he told CBS Washington, adding that an official mission statement is in the works, and should be finalized soon. “I think it’s sort of misguided to say we lack direction. We don’t have a definitive end list of things that we’re trying to accomplish, but we definitely have a great head on our shoulders about what we’re doing.”

Presently, the “Occupy Norfolk” website has a rough draft of their mission statement posted.

Musselman, who noted that he and others have been organizing the local occupation for at least a month, added that “Occupy Norfolk” is especially frustrated by a seeming federal tendency toward corporate coddling and favoritism.

“(The phrase) ‘Separation of Corporation and State’ seems to resonate with a lot of people here,” he added.

At present, the “Occupy Norfolk” Facebook group has over 4,500 members, and hundreds turn out to take part in marches and general assembly meetings. Between those two activities, the “Occupy” branch has at least one thing planned for every day and night of the week.

“I think the (entire “Occupy”) movement as a whole is sort of open-ended. I think everything relies upon building a consensus within the group … (so) we’re reluctant to push out one specific goal, or a couple. We want everyone’s voice to be included.”

It’s a work in progress, and Musselman cited other plans organizers have come up with to develop “Occupy Norfolk” through short-term plans into a respected and long-lasting occupation.

“We have strategies for expanding our presence in the area … and we’re also looking at getting into more targeted demos – similar to our marches, but more targeting one particular thing,” Musselman said. “We’ve also been in contact with some other movements in Virginia, looking for ways to get state-wide activity going.”

Comments (84)
  1. molly says:

    Who says there is no purpose? Enjoying the great live reads of Huckleberry Milton today. The literary aspects of this revolution is illuminating.

    1. jimbo says:

      You mean THIS:

      Huckleberry Milton and a robotic Jerry Garcia travel through recent American history in an attempt to jump start the economy by reviving the economy via impromptu concerts. Along the way, a lot of stream-of-consciousness psychedelic wackiness ensues.

      The literary aspects of COLLEGE are illuminating–like Macro 101, for instance…Hey man, did you know that “corporations” don’t actually pay taxes man? I know, right? They like, pass them on to their, like, consumers, man, and just add to inflation…inflation, man…like, wowwww…

      1. Kozlowski says:

        Corporate profits do not add to inflation. They make the economic pie larger, and everyone shares in those benefits. Corporate profits are what have created the amazing world we inhabit, the longer lives we enjoy, and the unprecedented standard of living – which far too many of us now take for granted!

        Inflation at root is caused by government policy and debasement of currency.

        S-Corporations do not pay taxes because the person(s) who own those corporations pay them instead.

        Separate “capitalism” which is good – very good – from “crony capitalism” which is bad. Reserve your ire for those corporations like GE who paid no taxes. How many taxpayers does it take to make up the $5 billion that GE SHOULD have paid? Root out crony capitalism with “separation of state and corporations” and we will all live in a fairer world.

        Get a flat tax with no deductions. Like Hong Kong has and which has worked for them so well they reduced the tax rate from 17% flat tax to a 15% flat tax!

        Do you think Anarchy is a good idea? Visit Cambodia and report bad to me.

        Do you think Communism is a good idea? Visit North Korea and report back to me.

        Do you think Socialism is a good idea? Visit any one of the PIGS countries in Europe and report back to me. Try to get healthcare in Canada or England and report back to me.

        Once you open your eyes, you realize that things were never so bad here after all. We just thought it was.

  2. jimbo says:

    How about this for a goal: Take (and pass) Macroeconomics 101, Financial Accounting 101, or Business Management 101 at a local community college.

    Then report back to the group about how your eyes have been opened and you are no longer living in willful ignorance, just because it is easier than working.

    What a bunch of slobs…

    1. Johnny5 says:

      Add Marketing 101 and Business Statistics 101 and these nitwits will at least have a core understanding of how the world around them actually works.

      1. USArmyCombatMedic says:

        And maybe English 101 so they can write coherent signs.

    2. Jim says:

      Jimbo. Nice post. I am honored to share your name.


  3. Kevin D. Korenthal says:

    There are a myriad of problems with this occupy movement. First, it is not a movement, it’s a fad. Secondly, camping overnight in protest just encourages all kinds of frustrating and illegal behavior that tarnishes the rest of the group. You’ll note that no such sleepins were present during the height of the TEA Party protests and won’t be when they resume in force next year.

    1. jasperddbgghost says:

      Tea Party people don’t do sleep ins.

      They can afford hotels well…because they occupy a job.

      1. dydx says:


        Instead of Occupy Wall Street they should Occupy a Payroll Sheet…

      2. U.S. Common Sense says:

        hahaha . . . yes, that’s one of the biggest differences between a movement (like the Tea Party) and an event (Occupy these spaces). The Tea Party had a core message that was clearly defined, while the Occupy these spaces lack a core message, especially since there are so many subgroups with polar-opposite messages involved. Anything that includes Big Unions, Ron Paul Supporters, Socialists, Lyndon LaRouche followers, et al will never agree to a single message, and as a result, will fail.

        As far as the spoiled college students who are complaining that they have high debt and no access to jobs, they a) are to blame for their fiscal decisions when going to college (they could have CLEP’d courses, sought out small scholarships to subsidize their costs, attended some courses at community colleges, etc), and b) should embrace what the founders of these large corporations that they hate so much did decades ago . . . take the initiative and create your own job instead on relying on others to give you one.

      3. asacan says:

        Perhaps I’m over-simplifying things or maybe I’m outright confused, but when I think of the OW_ and their lack of unified direction, I think of the October Revolution of 1917 in Russia. Even the word Bolshevik means “majority”, which the OW_ crowd think they represent (99%?). And just think, that was 95 years ago today (I just looked that up).

        I realize that not everyone involved in these OW_ are communists, Marxists, socialists, et al, but it won’t matter if they have their way. I’m hoping I’m either very confused in this analogy or that history doesn’t repeat itself.

      4. ROBBOB says:

        They have jobs?? Really??? Well, I do not have one and the Koch brothers have yet to give me any money. They are supposed to be paying every Tea Party person, but I have apparently been left out. Or teh reality is, they have not paid a dime to any Tea Party protester. We do not have mass produced signs courtesy of the UAW, Teamsters, Soros. We do not rape like Occupy Dallas. We do have a complete and communicated agenda whereas Occupy XXXXX is clueless. The odd fact is that Occupy XXXXX protests against their greatest benefactors. What if Wall Street “members” stopped giving money to universities, hospitals, Democratic Party, a myriad of charities, and need I continue??? I bet most of the Occupy XXXXX crowd are from families in teh topo 10% of earners.

      5. USArmyCombatMedic says:

        Or at least can occupy the Help Wanted section of Craigslist.

    2. Happydots says:

      I just hope they hang out until after November 8th when elections are done… less moronic liberal votes to deal with.

      1. Sam says:

        My concern is that we know ACORN, unions, greenies, etc are behind OWS. The Obummer lovers in general. I have no doubt that ACORN will use these protest to sign up and educate everyone on how to vote multiple times in various locations as to re-elect the idiot in the WH. Just watch what frauds come up next November

  4. Frank says:

    A protest in search of a purpose. Liberal is as liberal does.

  5. jrclark says:

    How about :

    “We lost our marbles, and the people that won them were all cheating, so we want our marbles back”

  6. Jan Greenhawk says:

    Too funny…the say they have a good head on their shoulders. Is that one brain for all of them to share? These idiots can’t even speak clearly without their communist talking points. They don’t have specifics because they don’t have a clue.

  7. Stan says:

    Start the draft up again, that will give these people to “OCCUPY” their pea brain.

    1. Steve says:

      Amen Stan – good idea…except that these losers would be the first to surrender when push comes to shove. Send them someplace where it does not matter… Afghanistan.

    2. USArmyCombatMedic says:

      While that notion may be entertaining to you, it’s horrifying to me. (Also slightly insulting, but I digress). Ever find it annoying to go to work and have that one co-worker hate his job so much that he pushes the vibe onto you? Well imagine serving with him. Day and night. 365 days a year.

      Some of us in the Army are actually proud to serve a country that has treated us so well. Please don’t liken us to these ingrates.

      1. OICU812 says:

        You’re right, I thought the same thing when I read the original post. I wouldn’t want the lives of my kids or any service member relying on trash like that. Hopefully, the armed services have a way to weed out the riffraff. I thank you for your service and these idiots should thank you too. Lets see them occupy Tehran or Damascus! We already know how things went in Tienanmen Square…

  8. OICU812 says:

    We want more stuff, and we don’t want to work to get it.

  9. Bobo355 says:

    The Goal: Take money from George Soros to stand around and yell and make noise and give support to President Failure. They are Obots, Sorons, Zombies. Same thing.

    1. OICU812 says:

      That sums things up pretty well.

  10. enemyoftheobamastate says:

    The federal government is the enemy of the people!

  11. Black Eagle says:

    Reds of various hues, seeking to emulate Lenin and Mao. Don’t be fooled, they dont give a rat’s behind about ordinary people. The goal is take-over, after which the head-shooting will begin.

  12. jsburke says:

    I can hear them chanting now……. “What do we want? We don’t know, we haven’t really given it much thought…. When do we want it? We’ll get back to you on that one as soon we know what it is we want. After that we’ll want it sometime after noon, preferably 3ish or 4ish after we wake up, eat, watch a little TV, catch up on Twitter.

  13. Rico Suave says:

    I wonder how many of these people are missing work?

    1. USArmyCombatMedic says:

      Like the teachers, et al.

    2. mewp says:

      If they are they should be fired and the job given to someone who wants to work.

      1. USArmyCombatMedic says:

        Too bad they are tenured. And the Unions will never go away as long as they vote Dem.

  14. Cynnibun says:

    “and hundreds turn out to take part in marches and general assembly meetings”.
    When? I work in the BB&T building downtown, there is never more than 8 people there at any given time. They must be counting the 100s that cross the street in front of them at 5:00 everyday, going to their cars, from their JOBS!!!
    Give it up, you people are lazy! I asked a co-worker what they were doing that day, he said; “Just laying around.” I thought he was kidding until I looked down there. No one sleeps in those tents they are there as a prop. The whole thing is a sham.

  15. Kevin Strange says:

    I work in Norfolk Va and walk by there everyday… There is nothing there but tents and a port-o-potty. I can assure you there aren’t 4500 people remotely there. There might be two.

    1. Sam says:

      If you added up all the OWS protesters from all the cities in USA, there are maybe a total of 6,000 – 8,000 total. Or about 1/100th of the Tea Party gaterhing in DC

  16. Trw2k says:

    Maybe the uninformed party in this is the reporter for CBS Washington.
    I think it is quite evident what “Occupy” is all about and it should be to all of you as well if you have been conscious for the last 5 years.

    I love how we love to tout the “freedoms we have in this country just to tear down the people who actually exercise them.

    1. OICU812 says:

      You are absolutely right. Though, if they are going to exercise their rights and freedom as Americans, they should know what they are protesting. Otherwise, what’s the point?

    2. USArmyCombatMedic says:

      Also, you should fully understand your freedoms. For example, your freedoms are quite extensive, however, they do not allow you to repress the freedom of others. Free speech may not be what you think. The same is true of Freedom of Assembly, e.g. I cannot just assemble a crowd in your backyard.

      Oh and we are not tearing down OWS protesters for exercising their freedoms. We are ridiculing them for their ignorance in regards to economy/business/capitalism.

  17. Jeff says:

    I think winter will help bring some “clarity” this this unwashed, confused movement of misfits, losers, nair-do-wells & never done anythings.

  18. Mr 5 percent says:

    “oh I have no idea…”

    Really? what a bunch of deadbeats. Move to North Dakota and get a job!

  19. JOe Dutra says:

    Teacher! Teacher! I know! I know! It’s a reality comedy show. Can I go to the bathroom now?

  20. Dave says:

    their confusion and lack of focus is perfect metaphor for the current Adminstration’s economic policies… don’t take responsibility.. blame someone else and create a straw man against which you rail and rant… for Obama its Congress… nevermind he had super majorities in both houses for 2 years

    no wonder Pelosi, Biden and Obama love these people they are distraction from the failed WH policies of spend more and when in doubt……spend more

  21. Daniel Petry says:

    Join us at Occupy Saturn. A tad cold and the gravity is somewhat harsh but let’s rock on!!

  22. caligula says:

    Must suck to be so poor you have cell phones and MacBook Pros to message one another about how bad you have it.

    1. USArmyCombatMedic says:

      Unfortunately, they bought the cell phone on the gov’t’s dime : google LifeLine Assistance.

      Oh, and the laptops were purchased with federal financial aid, which they feel they should not have to pay back.

  23. steve says:

    They don’t know why they are occupying? What a bunch of cretins.

  24. phillysmart says:

    Occupy anything is simply a get together of nut jobs

  25. 500 Yardline says:

    How about having an ‘Occupy the Shower’ movement where all this collection of anal fungus can learn basic hygiene that their sperm donor and sperm bank failed to teach while they were growing up.

  26. occupy says:

    this trainwreck is coming apart fast

  27. Fun is up in here says:

    I am down on Granby Street part of ossopie Norfolk. Me and my group Octavius, Jamarcus we just kicking back. We eat,laugh & sex up all the girls. Its nasty holmes. Jamarcus pooped in his sleeping bag, we be laffin all day about that. Oh, i forgot, where my damm check Congressmang Baynor?

    1. Jmal says:

      Yo Fun’s, your right! I’m chillin here with my ho’s Chandelier and Chlamydia.

      1. Fun is up in here says:

        Whassup mang, yea send Chandelier and Chlamidia my way and that dumb college girl wiff the car, Courtney over here too.

  28. Christopher says:

    I’m going to use facial recognition software to insure that none of these ‘occupy’ people ever have an ‘occupation’ working for me.
    I would rather give a bunch of inner-city Black kids a chance to bring themselves up out of poverty, than provide employment to these pathetic lowlifes that purposely seek to be the lowest form of human parasite.
    Democriticuss Liberalazi Demandfromus

  29. Bruce William says:

    Lol…well good luck trying to figure out what to do with yourselves

  30. JohnDD says:

    So, they are working on a “Mission Statement.” Gee, a Mission Statement, just like the kind the corporations they despise use to direct their companies. How ironic. What’s next, a Board of Directors for OWS? LOL Biggest bunch of clueless losers ever gathered in so many cities at one time.

  31. Cogito says:

    The Leftist elitists are the grandest liars ever. They vilify business claiming they are corrupt and greedy, and then go solicit them for campaign contributions. It is all class warfare to get the imbeciles of OWS to foam at the mouth.

    According to the Federal Election Commission reports, from 1998 through October 22, 2011 Democrats have collected $420,504,129 from the various business sector of our Country; namely Agribusiness, Defense Industry, Energy & Natural Resources, Finance, Insurance, Real Estate, Healthcare Industry, and miscellaneous business.

    They either demonize business to enlist the support of their idiot foot soldiers, or they are far more corrupt and greedy than business.

    An interesting poll would be to determine which business donates when asked because they share the Leftist ideology, or because they fear the consequences of refusing to give to some of the most powerful people on earth.

    As President Obama has said, “We’re gonna punish our enemies, and we’re gonna reward our friends that stand with us on issues important to us…”

  32. michael says:

    Find out why you are there by contacting the communist party ! van jones, soros, ect. there the one funding the stupid thing. the next step, will be violence. the problem is in washington ! not the parks. you know ? giving loans to bums that can’t pay for a mortgage. ask bernie frank and friends.

  33. Kent says:

    We now have in common with Europe herds of entitlement mentality ner-do-wells who take to the street to demand free stuff. Forty years of Communist indoctrination from liberal teachers and professors have born some sad fruit.

  34. Rich says:

    What is it about?! ANYTHING, that is anything other than record high unemployment and record high spending. Anything to draw attention away from what is really the problem.

  35. Cogiito says:

    Obama hires long-time Wall Street Lobbyist for his 2012 election campaign. Now we know what he really feels about the OWS protesters.

  36. Jim in Houston says:

    The common ground is terminal stupidity!

  37. Jim Gallagher says:

    Found this public service announcement; it’s seems to be a guaranteed way to send them running back to their basements…

  38. kyle says:

    If they DID have a brain amongst them, they would probably just take it out and play with it.

  39. Joan Romano says:

    It sounda like the Biblical City of Babel

  40. Tana says:

    The Tea Party only has clearly defined goals and strategies because it has a very well-funded PAC behind it. OWS is a REAL grassroots movement, not a pretend one. The goals are mostly worked out, the strategies are beginning to deploy. The people camping are paying attention to what’s happening in this country, and trying to do something about it. They are communicating to the rest of the country and the message is being heard. And notice the numbers – one commenter above said only 8 people were camping – not true, by the way – but 4500 people are members of the website. The campers are only the most visible part of the Occupy movement.

    1. ROBBOB says:

      What well funded PAC?? The Tea Party Movement has no money backing it except each individual’s paycheck. Unlike the Occupy XXXXX crowd who are well funded by George Soros, Teamsters, UAW, and every other Democratic Party shell organization. Hell, us Tea Party folks have to make our own signs, they are not supplied in bulk by the semi load. You might as well stop using the White House supplied talking points.

  41. Tana says:

    Gary – no point looking for a serious discussion here. It’s so much more FUN to throw baseless insults than it is to discuss the issues. Maybe that’s why our political process has become more about $$$$ to buy soundbites than about substantive debate.

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